Topic: Advice on wheels

[Syscrush]

You can get a Morris wheel widened by Kosman.. I know a guy getting that done this year.. probably cost 500ish plus shipping.. and if you send it soon, would be ready for next year..

Thanks.  I've thought about that, but it's too much money.  It would make sense for a racing application, but for what I'm doing, I think I mainly need to weigh the pros and cons of the different approaches and then make my decision.

[Syscrush]

I bought the Morris wheels, and I'm looking forward to seeing them.  I think that they're going to work well on the bike.

However, in the time since, I've become more and more fond of the 18" front and rear look.  And I'm a bit obsessed with the wheels on this bike:

I'm pretty sure I they don't fit in my budget, but does anyone have any ideas about where I could find wheels like the ones in this pic in 18" sizes?

I know that there are some forged flat track wheels out there (previously mentioned in this thread), but as I understand it, they're generally 19", and don't have provisions to mount a rotor on the front.

[Rookster]

Have you ever considered Kimtabs?  These are period correct.  It would require you to run a disk rear but if your getting Morris wheels then you will be running a disk rear anyway.  Limtabs powdercoated gloss black would give you a similar look but 70s not modern.  You could get a set for under $2k

[Syscrush]

Thanks.  Yes, I considered Kimtabs.  I do like them, but I find them a bit too busy for what I'm doing.

[754]

 Those are PM wheels on the duc.. performance machine =PM

[Syscrush]

Those are PM wheels on the duc.. performance machine =PM

Are you sure? I thought that they were RSD's own 1-off wheels for this project.  I know that PM makes dirt track wheels, but I can't find any info about them on their website.

[Lostboy Steve]

Have you ever considered Kimtabs?  These are period correct.  It would require you to run a disk rear but if your getting Morris wheels then you will be running a disk rear anyway.  Limtabs powdercoated gloss black would give you a similar look but 70s not modern.  You could get a set for under $2k

Those are #$%*ing hot. Lol the remind me of my 70's era puch magnum moped wheels! Very sweet!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Lostboy Steve]

Im running a 19f 18r both with the same size tire other than diameter. Cant go wrong with the look of dual 16s laced to your hubs but i doubt they handle well.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Grabcon]

You might want to consider a nice alloy rim with HD stainless spokes and a super lace from Woody's Wheel Works. See link below and give them a call. I highly recommend these guys for any type of wheel work.

http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/index.shtml

[Syscrush]

You might want to consider a nice alloy rim with HD stainless spokes and a super lace from Woody's Wheel Works. See link below and give them a call. I highly recommend these guys for any type of wheel work.

http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/index.shtml

Thanks very much, but I've decided that I don't want laced.  It'll be the cast Morris wheels or some forged wheels if I can find a set that fit my budget.

[Syscrush]

Those are PM wheels on the duc.. performance machine =PM

I got in touch with them, looks like you're right.

Here's what they had to say:

We do offer dirt track wheel but they are race weight and 19.0”  We offer them in 3.0” and 3.5” widths.

We do offer an 18.0” wheel but they are 3.5” wide.  We do not offer the narrower 18.0” wheels.

I can do a bolt pattern on the front.  On the rear they are set up with knock off nuts.

And he included the following picture:

I'm waiting to hear back on price.

Maybe I could find a 110mm front and 130mm rear on 18x3.5" wheels?


Does anyone know the details of how those knock-off nuts work on the rear wheel?

[754]

The price is gonna hurt, think they are like 2 K.
 On the knock off, usually 8 bolts, cept  4 stick up proud the others are flush. Slip the sprocket or disc over the threaded snout, and drop on the 4 pins/bolts, then spin on the nut.

 You can get sprockets that bolt on same patern, and drill disc carriers to fit.

[luap]

thats a nice wheel. i would do 19/19 to show off as much as you can 18 might get covered up a little to much in the rear, how wide is the girder, will be able to run a brake caliper an disc, whats the axle size,  http://iwblogger.com/2009/judge-boneshaker-custom-honda/ id keep thinking about the wire wheel, the girder is alot better but im building a 550 with a dna springer plans running 21/21 front lcaed to 450 hub an rear to 550 hub then try an make it stand out a little with some podercoat spokes an hub,

[Syscrush]

The price is gonna hurt, think they are like 2 K.

I think you're right about the price.  That's just barely inside my budget, I think I'd feel better if they were $5k so I wouldn't have to question if I should buy them or not.

On the knock off, usually 8 bolts, cept  4 stick up proud the others are flush. Slip the sprocket or disc over the threaded snout, and drop on the 4 pins/bolts, then spin on the nut.

 You can get sprockets that bolt on same patern, and drill disc carriers to fit.

That's what I thought based on what I've seen on cars.  Thanks.

[Syscrush]

thats a nice wheel. i would do 19/19 to show off as much as you can 18 might get covered up a little to much in the rear,

I'm switching to a link-type monoshock rear suspension to keep the swingarm, rear wheel, and tail nice and open.

What would be good street tires to run in 19" sizes?

how wide is the girder, will be able to run a brake caliper an disc, whats the axle size, 

I'm going to pick the wheels and brakes first and then have the girder and swinger built to fit.

id keep thinking about the wire wheel, the girder is alot better but im building a 550 with a dna springer plans running 21/21 front lcaed to 450 hub an rear to 550 hub then try an make it stand out a little with some podercoat spokes an hub,

I like wire wheels a lot, but it's not the direction I want to go with this bike.  Good luck with your build, that 21/21 combo sounds crazy.

[Syscrush]

The price is gonna hurt, think they are like 2 K.

I asked about a 19x3.0 front and 19x3.5 rear and the response was:

Polished: $750 & $850.
Black Anodized: $850 & $950.

Not sure which price is which (I assume that the higher price is for the rear with the knock-offs), but this is actually inside my stated wheel budget.

I have a look for the whole bike that's planned around those Morris wheels, and I still really like that plan a lot.

The PM wheels are just so f'n sexay, though.

Decisions, decisions...

[754]

 The PM wheels are VERY light.. and cool..

[Syscrush]

The PM wheels are VERY light.. and cool..

Yes, they are pretty awesome.  They are my Plan B if the Morris wheels don't come through for whatever reason.

754, thanks very much for the pointers and all the info, I really appreciate it.


Now, what street tires/sizes would you suggest for:

19x3.0f/19x3.5r
18x3.5f/18x3.5r

[754]

If you can get the PMs in Ducati drill pattern, its the same as cb750..
 check the cover of the new cycle world..

[Syscrush]

According to track-trace.com, my Morris wheels have hit Canadian shores.  Sitting in customs now, can't wait to see 'em!

Since buying the Morris wheels, I realized that I have seen the 18/19 Morris combo on a CB550 before:

[Syscrush]

According to track-trace.com, my Morris wheels have hit Canadian shores.  Sitting in customs now, can't wait to see 'em!

Turns out it was better than I thought!

Thanks to voxonda for the sweet hook-ups.

[fatmatt650]

  Sweet wheels, Syscrush! I'm jealous.

[Syscrush]

Sweet wheels, Syscrush! I'm jealous.

Thanks.  They weren't easy to procure, but they're the right thing for this project.  I've been planning/lusting/daydreaming for almost 10 years now, I've decided not to go halfway on anything.

[754]

 Are they  mag?..how wide is the rear?
 I always thought the Morris were a clean design.. much cleaner than Lesters and many others.. but the early Morris 18s were very skinny.. still have one..?

[Syscrush]

Are they  mag?..how wide is the rear?
 I always thought the Morris were a clean design.. much cleaner than Lesters and many others.. but the early Morris 18s were very skinny.. still have one..?

No, they're not mag.  I don't trust 40 year old magnesium wheels, and can't afford the new reproduction ones from Marvic.

Front is 19x2.15 and rear 18x2.50.  Very close to stock if I recall correctly.

This bike made me stop worrying and learn to love skinny rear tires: