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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #251 on: March 20, 2012, 05:41:41 PM »
Soooooo, will these work in my '75 CB750F?
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« Reply #252 on: March 20, 2012, 07:10:06 PM »
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« Reply #253 on: March 20, 2012, 07:29:40 PM »
Good point, Roach.
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #254 on: March 20, 2012, 07:51:40 PM »
I had mine done through this guy on ebay... $124 pluss shipping...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-Suzuki-Yamaha-Honda-Four-Cylinder-Boring-/250003511909?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a355eda65

do you send the pistons with it? whats the turnaround time on it? thenks man!
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #255 on: March 20, 2012, 07:58:06 PM »
I had mine done through this guy on ebay... $124 pluss shipping...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-Suzuki-Yamaha-Honda-Four-Cylinder-Boring-/250003511909?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a355eda65

do you send the pistons with it? whats the turnaround time on it? thenks man!

Yea you send him the pistons too, and he fit/marked a certain piston to each cylinder, and filed the ring ends to fit properly.  probably took 3 weeks but i don't remember, and i wasn't in a hurry. He did a great job and everything was packaged nicely. just make sure to specify the bore gap, etc.
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #256 on: March 23, 2012, 10:18:41 PM »
Soooooo, will these work in my '75 CB750F?

Yes. Get the head milled about 0.010" in the process, too, and the final compression comes out to about 9.4:1.
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #257 on: May 17, 2012, 10:54:43 PM »
I've got the suggested piston/cylinder clearance, now What should the piston ring end gaps be? And are the ring gaps all the same?  Is the top ring sometimes gapped wider?
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« Reply #258 on: May 20, 2012, 09:14:26 PM »
I've got the suggested piston/cylinder clearance, now What should the piston ring end gaps be? And are the ring gaps all the same?  Is the top ring sometimes gapped wider?

Use 0.002"-.003" more than stock ring specs. ;)
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #259 on: May 21, 2012, 09:12:12 PM »
I'm taking notes here and there, with our Hondaman book this should be a fun build. My brother and I are building two.
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #260 on: May 23, 2012, 06:51:35 AM »
Anyone have  experience ordering these kits?  Specifically with any import fees, taxes, custom charges etc.  I'm just wondering if duties end up costing as much as the product.

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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #261 on: May 23, 2012, 07:07:05 AM »
Anyone have  experience ordering these kits?  Specifically with any import fees, taxes, custom charges etc.  I'm just wondering if duties end up costing as much as the product.

Thanks
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Many of us have ordered them, as you can see in this thread, you just pay shipping, which is listed on the listing.
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Re: Cheap 836 kits back on ebay...$110! *Update!
« Reply #262 on: May 23, 2012, 08:31:55 AM »
I got mine in about a week, They are a bit sharp on the edges, exactly as everyone described. From the way they were packed and others experiences I'd say two ship better than one. The double cardboard on the gaskets supports them and the 8  boxed pistons are about the same size as the gaskets.
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« Reply #263 on: August 08, 2012, 10:06:32 PM »
Unbelievably.... I ordered my Sunday night, late.  Got them Wednesday morning less than 3 full days... I was floored.  I think the user name was CrusingImage.

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« Reply #264 on: August 18, 2012, 08:32:29 PM »
Ok, I know this is an old thread, but I'm feeling Lucky!

If you have these in your motor, can you please give us an update?

He is now selling a big bore kit for the 550 too.
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« Reply #265 on: August 18, 2012, 08:44:27 PM »
Ok, I know this is an old thread, but I'm feeling Lucky!

If you have these in your motor, can you please give us an update?

He is now selling a big bore kit for the 550 too.

Have a chat to Hondaman Stev-o, he has the low down on these pistons mate... ;)
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« Reply #266 on: August 18, 2012, 08:50:00 PM »
I know Hondaman has rebuilt motors with them. But I am more interested in the owner of the rebuilt motor and how they have held up.
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« Reply #267 on: August 18, 2012, 08:53:37 PM »
I know Hondaman has rebuilt motors with them. But I am more interested in the owner of the rebuilt motor and how they have help up.
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I thought that seeings though he has built some customer bikes with them he would be the man to ask.... ;)
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« Reply #268 on: August 18, 2012, 10:24:23 PM »
I know Hondaman has rebuilt motors with them. But I am more interested in the owner of the rebuilt motor and how they have held up.
Thx

There's some of those out there now 3 years, no issues. One engine which I was involved with, but did not build myself (cam replacement only) has the stock engine studs in it, not HD studs, and it is leaking some oil at the head gasket. I recommend the extra torque (20 ft-lbs) and those HD studs, for sure.
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« Reply #269 on: November 25, 2012, 09:45:04 PM »
With this 836 kit do the pistons have enough valve relief area to run a high lift cam?

If so,how high of a lift/long duration will it accommodate?

Are the crowns thick enough to flycut them if need be?
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« Reply #270 on: November 26, 2012, 08:49:37 PM »
Some recent builds have had the piston tops end up .007 to .012 above the deck. A simple shim under the cylinders can adjust dech heigth and to a point might help valve clearance. I'm running a, F2 cam and haven't hurt it yet. that's all I know about cam clearance. According to some I have enough, not all agree on the clearance needed.
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« Reply #271 on: November 26, 2012, 08:57:52 PM »
Thanks for the reply! How do you like the 836 with the F2 cam? Is it a big difference from stock,or just noticeable?
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« Reply #272 on: November 26, 2012, 09:13:22 PM »
 If you have to cut a low dome piston, chances are very little  has to come off, and you might be able to do it yourself..
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« Reply #273 on: November 26, 2012, 09:20:43 PM »
Good to know.Thank you sir. I just thought maybe there was a known cam that was a no-go perhaps.
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« Reply #274 on: November 27, 2012, 09:59:59 PM »
Thanks for the reply! How do you like the 836 with the F2 cam? Is it a big difference from stock,or just noticeable?

Well, I added the 836 kit ported the head and added the cam all at once so I can't say how much is the cam but I seriously love the torque. It accelerates faster at lower rpm's. Even with the 18/48 sprockets. I find I don't rev it as tight which is a good thing.
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