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Re: MORE STOCK THAN NOT - post your pics!!
« Reply #1100 on: April 22, 2023, 03:41:38 AM »
Have you got a link for the ebay sticker? some years ago i had some made, there are two colours, black and gold for different colour bikes
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« Reply #1101 on: April 22, 2023, 04:44:42 AM »
"I was going to get new ones, but I saw a comment on here somewhere that said that one way to tell a true unrestored bike from a restored one is the wear on the footpeg rubber!"


not necessarily true....not every owner has dragged a peg or laid their bike down.....
if the footpegs on my '75 550F bike were replaced prior to my purchase in 1994 I wouldn't know, but the ones on it have not been replaced by me and they are pristine...

also...and open for discussion....it's debatable about "originality " and "survivor " definitions concerning replacing items with original, factory identical parts.....
The AMCA allows nos  part replacement without denying originality or survivor status......
However, obviously, a brand new shiny nos part on a "patina" bike " is a problem....
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« Reply #1102 on: April 22, 2023, 04:57:33 AM »
"The chain doesn't have a master link.  The fuel line has been replaced, but the carb overflow lines were original when I got it but they crumbled when I removed the float bowls to service the carbs.  I have the remains in a box, but used new ones.
The tires appeared original when I got the bike!  Rock hard, had to cut them off.  Here is a pic of the old and new tire:"


then I would say that chain is the original factory supplied chain. In my 550F owner's manual, it talks about servicing the "endless" chain. Maybe yours does also.
Many of those didn't survive because back in the day, patching a back tire tube in the middle of nowhere was 10 times easier if you had removed a link and added a master link for easy chain removal.
Aslo, I don't think anyone sells endless chains....

Tires...original tires are identified by a sticker on the bike and the owners manual stating tire brand and size....at least on my '75....once again, not familiar with K0 500's....

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« Reply #1103 on: April 22, 2023, 05:09:11 AM »
"Ok now I'm self conscious about riding it!"


lol....well, it's a choice. My opinion?....it's not right or wrong. It's a choice. Isn't that what this hobby is all about?
Who wouldn't want to ride and show off that bike.
Who wouldn't want to preserve and maintain as much originality and survivor character it has and trailer queen it.

It can be a friendly discussion respecting both points of view....or it can be an arrogant argument....I prefer the former.

I'd be a fool to ride my bike around with the chance of destroying parts that are unobtainable....the satisfaction I get from displaying it to people that are amazed ..and shocked and appreciative of its originality and survivorship are all I need.....

either way, that is a nice bike.....beautiful mustang....

I also know a dealer that says he has nos starlight side covers....I think I heard him right....they do not have the decal....
he is not wholesale......
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« Reply #1104 on: April 22, 2023, 05:13:45 AM »
"The Honda Motor Co decals seem to be in Honda's promotional pictures of the Starlight Gold model.  The left side cover is original and has the sticker.  I have ordered a sticker for the right side cover. Shockingly, someone has some for sale on ebay."



yep...
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« Reply #1105 on: April 22, 2023, 06:06:32 AM »
Changing footrest rubbers was considered a service item when i was in the trade, split, damaged or loose just change them. Would you consider riding with a damaged fork gaiter if it was split just cos its original?
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« Reply #1106 on: April 22, 2023, 06:41:04 AM »
Have you got a link for the ebay sticker? some years ago i had some made, there are two colours, black and gold for different colour bikes
Here are the ones I found.  Light color:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143755232625?hash=item21787ac571:g:RfUAAMXQJRhRbW57&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwF3wVboE1ZQbn%2FZv28%2BbV5E4I%2BMpCVU1cCK%2BeWsu7M%2FZz8yCJpcX0N9%2BabByTRVklxwahECvfWOJzrRI7eormwmJIMkTTS8tnBixitBi%2FVTkaA16u8WcpKa4KOjfb876R1iDYZz2m%2FzmslQ74f88eRzin5CSLOofxa92mutg5x8yn2IXJNXhZgebgUDqUTWblZ%2BLSdtH%2BfufbHAQwINkzYCeJFzY8gtgLTqYYqIFftH2DeIy%2FP8sUE5s9v5gPQCugQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR57gte_0YQ

Black (the one I bought):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134492379601?hash=item1f505ed9d1:g:~TwAAOxy6MBSRxN4&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwPtHqocw3ialaT1aKzUPC97jv%2Bx6yAadyGeTaqKC7QnY9JPuyW3TLfPpiSYlJhufuoWn66sXEiw61vNfE2L7LIyT10huf8TlnF2ABBGJqrLNmlJML510pqxUlmKJ2fNJeAAz0W%2B7pvMEahv08xnVzfBDeSn%2FrqhI3wTJDu7060z4nkh8ge2XmI3gVDi9BoO34njiROw%2BHQyiDX1k2n5dPjBtQiZnj1VGW4kL%2FsdmTnfFLubnty9mKCHNJDk%2FH5hl9g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR57gte_0YQ

Glad you found a nice early model that was cared for, enjoy riding it and the friendships and experiences it opens up owning it.

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Thanks David!

I hope you enjoy riding your bike;show it off on the road  ;)
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My opinion?....it's not right or wrong. It's a choice. Isn't that what this hobby is all about?
Who wouldn't want to ride and show off that bike.
Who wouldn't want to preserve and maintain as much originality and survivor character and trailer queen it.

Thanks for all of the kind words and info.  The members of this forum have so much valuable information and insight, I truly appreciate it.

I'm planning to ride it in a vintage bike rally today (https://www.idahovintagemotorcycleclub.org).   I had thought about restoring it to a more perfect state, but hearing from everyone I think it's best left with the patina.  Maintaining originality, but taking it for a ride every now and then is the plan.

Changing footrest rubbers was considered a service item when i was in the trade, split, damaged or loose just change them. Would you consider riding with a damaged fork gaiter if it was split just cos its original?
Haha, you are right of course.  I think I still have PTSD from the Mustang judging crowd.  They would definitely rather see a worn part than a replacement, unless the replacement part was NOS and exactly date coded for that car.  My father in law restored a 1971 Corvette 454 4-speed to show level, and he said that the Corvette world was even more stringent!




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Re: MORE STOCK THAN NOT - post your pics!!
« Reply #1107 on: April 22, 2023, 02:47:48 PM »
what a coincidence....current AMCA magazine.....orig. tires +.....

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« Reply #1108 on: April 22, 2023, 03:46:41 PM »
His description is wrong as they were only 500K0 and originaly they were NOT laquerd over, just stuck on.
I first made some printed on acetate after scanning a removed sticker then using a pixel program to fill in the missing bits but then sent the file to the Canadian firm who no longer advertiseHonda decals but do them if you email them and had several sets made.
If you want i will try and find the file for you
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Re: MORE STOCK THAN NOT - post your pics!!
« Reply #1109 on: April 24, 2023, 07:41:39 AM »
Have you got a link for the ebay sticker? some years ago i had some made, there are two colours, black and gold for different colour bikes
Here are the ones I found.  Light color:
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I hope you enjoy riding your bike;show it off on the road  ;)
Thanks grcamna2!

My opinion?....it's not right or wrong. It's a choice. Isn't that what this hobby is all about?
Who wouldn't want to ride and show off that bike.
Who wouldn't want to preserve and maintain as much originality and survivor character and trailer queen it.

Thanks for all of the kind words and info.  The members of this forum have so much valuable information and insight, I truly appreciate it.

I'm planning to ride it in a vintage bike rally today (https://www.idahovintagemotorcycleclub.org).   I had thought about restoring it to a more perfect state, but hearing from everyone I think it's best left with the patina.  Maintaining originality, but taking it for a ride every now and then is the plan.

Changing footrest rubbers was considered a service item when i was in the trade, split, damaged or loose just change them. Would you consider riding with a damaged fork gaiter if it was split just cos its original?
Haha, you are right of course.  I think I still have PTSD from the Mustang judging crowd.  They would definitely rather see a worn part than a replacement, unless the replacement part was NOS and exactly date coded for that car.  My father in law restored a 1971 Corvette 454 4-speed to show level, and he said that the Corvette world was even more stringent!


Curious what tire the bike had and the new one you ordered, they appear to be the same.

I love old Mustangs, especially fastbacks!  I have a '70 Corvette and yes, the purists can get a little nuts about replacement aftermarket [cheapass] parts!  There are NCRS [National Corvette Restorers Society] Technical Information Manual & Judging books...

https://www.ncrs.org/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_1_17&products_id=217

I would never have mine judged by them!!





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Re: MORE STOCK THAN NOT - post your pics!!
« Reply #1110 on: April 24, 2023, 04:27:59 PM »
what a coincidence....current AMCA magazine.....orig. tires +.....
i have original rubber on mine still - Feb, of 71' bridgestone speedmasters - no dry rot.
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« Reply #1111 on: April 25, 2023, 10:15:13 AM »
All this talk about survivor 500 has spurred me to post a couple of pics. It's from Colorado Springs and have been in touch with the last owners. It's Jul 71 manufacture and was a repossession after about a years life and then a husband and then wife owned it. They had crash bars and bar mounted fairing fitted.
Original tyres (but back is pretty worn) and continuous chain.
Now shows 4886 M.
I'll get it out on the road and take some better pictures in a while.
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« Reply #1112 on: April 25, 2023, 10:59:15 AM »
I remember seeing the post of that 500 when the wife posted on fb trying to figure out how much to sell it for. It was all dirty. It looks good.
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« Reply #1113 on: April 25, 2023, 11:12:50 AM »
I've had it over six years. Cleanest one I'd ever seen. (except the one I bought new in 74)

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« Reply #1114 on: April 25, 2023, 11:15:27 AM »
Very nice Phil!
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« Reply #1115 on: April 25, 2023, 11:16:22 AM »
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
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Re: MORE STOCK THAN NOT - post your pics!!
« Reply #1116 on: April 25, 2023, 12:38:01 PM »
Beautiful CB500 with very nice green color and good looking gauges!

Fantastic if still unrestored stock.
Photos of bikes like that will help restorers to do it right.
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« Reply #1117 on: April 25, 2023, 02:33:10 PM »
what a coincidence....current AMCA magazine.....orig. tires +.....
i have original rubber on mine still - Feb, of 71' bridgestone speedmasters - no dry rot.

black shoe polish makes my 47 year old tires look...ok..

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« Reply #1118 on: April 29, 2023, 07:11:59 PM »
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« Reply #1119 on: April 30, 2023, 12:26:50 AM »
Definately another K0, later in 71 so no side panel decal
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« Reply #1120 on: June 20, 2023, 02:42:18 PM »
 CB750 K2, non original K1 836 engine, it has a lot of chrome on it now but I have more, how many would be less likely to want a bike with many stock but chromed parts?   
 Example, rebuilt and chromed swingarm with chain guard, brake strut, rod and hardware. Also sidestand with a sweet 4-2 hooker header.
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« Reply #1121 on: June 22, 2023, 05:21:52 AM »
I bought a K6 with only 3600 miles on it a couple of months ago. The bike had been sitting for more than 40 years. 100% original.



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« Reply #1122 on: June 22, 2023, 07:52:17 AM »
Nice bikes!
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« Reply #1123 on: June 22, 2023, 08:35:46 AM »
Very nice bikes! Nice pair to choose from when going for a ride!
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« Reply #1124 on: July 20, 2023, 02:24:08 PM »
Wow!  Those are super nice
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