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video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« on: June 26, 2011, 09:43:49 AM »
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This is my first bike. I am curious if the sounds it makes are normal. Thank you!
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2011, 09:47:23 AM »
 :-\  how do I embed it?

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2011, 10:09:51 AM »
Have you adj. the cam chain sounds a little loose to me and clutch.

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2011, 11:03:06 AM »
.. and valve tappets and timing and carb settings topped off by a sync.
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2011, 11:26:54 AM »
Sounds like what they said.  Do what they say to do first.

Don't emed, just put the link to the page.
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2011, 11:48:50 AM »
ok, this is my first go at mechanics  :o

so I've got the manual downloaded.. pg 28 of the pdf has instructions on adjusting the cam chain.... the picture shows the tensioner hanging down in front of the carbs...  :-\ uh.. nothing there on my bike? does it have to released and lowered from somewhere?

I'd really love to be able to this myself! looking forward to learning a LOT!

its a 77 btw

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2011, 12:00:31 PM »
Look at the 3000 mile tune up schedule / chart.

It's important to do all of those things the specified order too.



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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2011, 12:25:04 PM »
It sounds normal for a bike that doesn't idle smoothly.
Do the the 3000 mile tuneup and vacuum balance the carbs.

Then check the induction system behind the carbs for leaks or incorrect connections.
Bottom of the air chamber is a drain, it gets a reduced diameter tube with a bit of open cell foam on the end of it.
The side of the filter chamber get a hose that goes up to the engine cylinder cover.
The bottom of the filter box gets another drain tube, but the end of the tube has a cap with a slit in it.  It blocks air ingress but allows condensation to drip out.  All the drain tubes gather behind the engine and in front of the swing arm.

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2011, 01:21:15 PM »
The cam chain adjustment is the first thing on the list of 3000 miles check up. It's not hanging in front of carbs, its inside the engine in front of the carbs. You will see the small nut with screw inside it, just above the chrome cover between carbs and engine.

Follow closely the advice of these people here, and you will be humming along before you know it.
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2011, 02:35:13 PM »
thanks guys. what sucks is that I was sold a "humming" bike... guy totally took advantage of me.. I tried to get it from my in-laws 10 miles to my house, first highway experience (ever) and the thing just dies going 70mph..

kickstart.. dies again a mile down.. kickstart.. 2 miles.. kickstart.. 2 miles.. in-laws driveway 1/4 mile push  ??? and its hot.


 ::)  learning experience for sure!

at this point I might start by taking it to a bike mechanic. good idea?

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2011, 03:07:14 PM »
Seems to me that if you want to learn to fix this thing in the future (and one call to a local mechanic will convince you of that pretty damn quick, when you hear the hourly rate), you should make an attempt at doing the 3000 mile tune up.  It's really not hard, just takes some patience. 

Cam chain (wrench and screw driver), valve tappet adjustment (wrench and screw driver), points adjustment (feeler gauges and screw driver), and then the timing and carb sync take special tools.  By special I mean, readily available and less than one hour with a mechanic. 

Along the way you will realize that some other tools are needed, but if you own some of these already (multimeter for instance) you are already saving a ton of money, and learning in the process. 

When I first got my bike, I figured I'd give it a shot, and worst case, take it to a mechanic.  I was just like you (and still am!) but realized that with the manual, the help from folks on here (search first, ask second!) that I could probably get through at least SOME of the procedures. 

To date, I have gone to a mechanic once.  And that was to wrestle the rear bearing retainer off.  When he ended up using enough leverage to lift a small truck, which i definitely could not do on the curb, I didn't feel so bad.

It's totally your call.  But I feel that if you have found your way to this forum, you have half the battle licked, and probably deep down, want to mess with this thing yourself.

Good luck, and keep at it.  It's the best feeling, going for that first good ride on your new bike.  Even better when you did the work yourself!
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2011, 03:09:25 PM »
Check the battery voltage.

See if it has 3 ohm coils/ dyna ignition

Find out the headlight wattage.

Watch the battery voltage after start up, and check to see if the battery voltage slowly climbs when the engine is revved up.

Some people are good at making the bike look good, some are good at make the bike run well.  Few people can do both.

Some just sell "the look".

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2011, 03:25:26 PM »
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Some people are good at making the bike look good, some are good at make the bike run well.  Few people can do both.

Considering the way my bike looked, I WISH my PO had worked a little harder on how it ran :)
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2011, 03:45:54 PM »
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Some people are good at making the bike look good, some are good at make the bike run well.  Few people can do both.

Considering the way my bike looked, I WISH my PO had worked a little harder on how it ran :)

I guess I should have mentioned the group that can do neither... ::)

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2011, 03:50:02 PM »
 ;D!!!!!!!!!

Well done sir.
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2011, 06:45:24 PM »
The bike does look good, I like the side cover treatment 8) What did you give for it?
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2011, 07:30:02 PM »
I've heard enough stories AND have had enough of my own experiences to know that when it comes to these SOHC4s...
YOU even with your current lack of experience are the best mechanic for your machine. (equipped with the knowledge available here of course... Your a frickin genius in fact! :-)

You might get lucky and find someone at a shop near you who can handle it right, but I think the odds are against that. ... And taking that chance has cost many folks lots of ca$h and more work in the end. So many others have paid professionals do work, only to have to come back fix it right afterwards anyway.

While at first many of the repairs and tuning may seem cryptic and difficult to understand, once you break out the wrenches and start cranking, it all seems to come together. ... You'd be surprised at how easy it gets! Just don't give up before getting 'round the learning curve! :-)
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2011, 07:25:40 AM »
thanks guys.

printing the service manual posted here now.

should I buy any other books? I think my school should have some basic motorcycle repair stuff as they offer a course (which I'll probably take, but its not tell January!).

I have taken a look at the tune up chart, as far as doing it in order did you mean start at the top of the chart? it seems like I'd be doing some redundant dis-assembling that way?

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2011, 07:27:39 AM »
oh yeah.. I paid 1,600 us $  :o

what an idiot  :-\

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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2011, 07:39:11 AM »
live and learn.  Once you get it running, you can run some fun out of that purchase and get some money back out of it :D
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2011, 07:47:47 AM »
thanks guys.

printing the service manual posted here now.

should I buy any other books? I think my school should have some basic motorcycle repair stuff as they offer a course (which I'll probably take, but its not tell January!).

I have taken a look at the tune up chart, as far as doing it in order did you mean start at the top of the chart? it seems like I'd be doing some redundant dis-assembling that way?

I've done everything with the Workshop manual and the Owner's Manual, both from right here on the downloads page.  I'm not sure which chart you refer to, but there should not be too much to disassemble other than the points and valve tappet covers.  Then when you get to the carbs, that's a whole bunch of small things to disassemble, so take photos and keep track of what goes where.  None of this is very hard, it just takes patience.

Make sure you start a list (easiest based on the chart you have I guess), and order the parts you may need for the procedures.  New points, carb gaskets and o-rings etc.  That way when you get to it, you know you have what you need, and won't half-ass it or get delayed because you are missing replacement parts. There are not really special tools you will need, except for a carb sync tool and a timing light/gun, which your class may have, and may let you borrow for the quick procedure, even before you actually begin the class.

Good luck.  And realize there is a basic overview of all the procedures here on this site.  make sure you devour the FAQ and Tricks and Tips sections.
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2011, 11:06:53 AM »
bad news: class is discontinued.

good news: you guys are awesome!

any tips on embedding photos/videos would be a great place to start.. should help tremendously with asking questions.

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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2011, 11:20:13 AM »
bad news: class is discontinued.

good news: you guys are awesome!

any tips on embedding photos/videos would be a great place to start.. should help tremendously with asking questions.

Sounds like what they said.  Do what they say to do first.

Don't emed, just put the link to the page.

For images, select the image icon to add [img /img] and put link to the image in the middle.
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Re: video/question of my first bike: cb550 four
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2011, 11:20:45 AM »
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This is my first bike. I am curious if the sounds it makes are normal. Thank you!

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