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Re: ARD Magneto
« Reply #350 on: May 30, 2008, 02:48:57 AM »
Here you go Lutz, Z1 Enterprises are selling the Dyna 2000 kit for $384.00, so you send me one of them, and I'll pay for shipping the complete ARD magneto, coil, CDI box etc to you, OK?

I sold my other ARD EI magneto to one of the guys here for $550.00 plus shipping, so that's a bargain! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #351 on: May 30, 2008, 05:58:10 AM »

If you want just the coil and black box to keep shipping costs down I'll keep the magneto, but the price is the same, a "straight swap" for a new Dyna 2000 ignition and a pair of Dyna 3 ohm coils. Cheers, Terry. ;D
Good move Terry. ;)
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« Reply #352 on: May 30, 2008, 11:56:13 PM »
Hi Terry,
sounds good,please give your adress to me and i will see what i can do for you  ;D
Thanks and have a nice weekend
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« Reply #353 on: May 31, 2008, 03:58:25 AM »
No worries mate, PM sent. Don't forget to give me your address so I can send you the ARD Magneto! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: ARD Magneto
« Reply #354 on: June 02, 2008, 05:06:02 AM »
Hi Terry,
i´m not very happy and bad news for you  :-[
I can`t buy the magneto because last weekend we have had a lot of trouble with our dragster,so first of all i have to buy new engine parts or in the worth case a complete new engine   :'(
Click here:

www.angelheart-dragrace.de

and you can see how we spent our time if we are not working and if you agree i will keep your offer in my mind and will buy your magneto later.
Kind regards and have a nice day  :)
Lutz


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« Reply #355 on: June 02, 2008, 12:38:44 PM »
Sorry,
"worst case" is better i think   ;)
Not so easy to speak and write in english.

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« Reply #356 on: June 02, 2008, 02:11:49 PM »
Ha ha, no worries mate, you fix that bike and I'll hang on to it for a little while, just let me know when you want it. Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #357 on: June 02, 2008, 09:41:20 PM »
Schreib es in Deutch, wir uberzetzen es fur Ihnen.. :)
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« Reply #358 on: June 02, 2008, 11:26:50 PM »
@ Terry
Thanks Terry,but it is not a drag bike,it is an altered with a chevy small block and a new engine will cost about 6000-8000 $ !
We will see  ::)
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Thanks too,but i will try in english further on  ;)

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« Reply #359 on: May 16, 2009, 08:35:42 AM »
Wow..."The Thread that Wouldn't Die"...   ;D

There are still members reading all 24 pages of this, and I've gotten a couple emails on the "instruction sheets", so a fellow member "cleaned them up a little" and converted them to PDF...

I also found my old ARD-Triumph 650 twin instruction sheet in a notebook I used for reloading...so I scanned that and uploaded it, too...

If you have an ARD mag, whether Fairbanks-Morse or the CDI model, it's worth reading all three and understanding what's going on before converting your Honda 500/550/750 to magneto ignition...   ;)

http://www.wzrd.com/~rbrennan/misc/ard_cdi.zip

http://www.wzrd.com/~rbrennan/misc/ard_fm.zip

http://www.wzrd.com/~rbrennan/misc/ard_tri.jpg
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Re: ARD Magneto
« Reply #360 on: June 01, 2009, 04:45:29 PM »
If anybody is interested, I've got one for sale. I bought it for a project that I went a different direction on, so I'm getting rid of the stuff I'm not going to use.

I would post this to the classifieds, but for some reason it won't let me create a new post there. In any case, here are a couple of pics of what I've got. I don't know much about it, other than the belt & pulleys look to be in good shape, it's not sparking so it will need a rebuild, and the lower pulley that attaches to the timing shaft of the bike needs a bearing. I can take better pictures if anybody is really interested. I'd love to see $600 plus shipping for it.















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Re: ARD Magneto
« Reply #361 on: March 06, 2011, 04:05:55 PM »
Hey Guys!

I'm only new to this forum having just built a 76 CB750, I've got an F1 head on there and it's basically just a bare bones rat cafe! so excited!

I've been looking for an ARD Magneto for it for ages though, can anyone give me any leads? the current battery eliminator ive got on there is a bit ghetto but works, id like a stronger spark though..

let me know if any one can help!  my email is rohan.welsh@lion-nathan.com.au

Thanks again

Rohan

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« Reply #362 on: June 27, 2011, 05:58:40 AM »
Hi,Does anyone on here have the pdf file/download  on installation and setting the timing up on a ARD fm,the model
I have is the same one as the one 2 posts back,by Hawk, on this page,what model is it, MK1,2,3,? Many Thanks.

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« Reply #363 on: June 28, 2011, 10:41:46 PM »
G'Day mate, that's a MK1. I think I've got installation instructions for one somewhere, I'll check when I get home in a couple of days. Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #364 on: June 29, 2011, 11:08:57 AM »
Thanks Terry,much appreciated,and great if you have the installation instuctions,and or any  other info.

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« Reply #365 on: July 05, 2011, 09:47:47 AM »
I HAVE BEEN READING UP ON SOME MORE ON THESE ARD MAGNETOS,AND FOUND AN ARTICLE IN 'CHOPPERS' MAGAZINE
DATED DEC 1974, RUSS COLLINS  WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN THE INSTALLATION OF THIS AS AN ARD MAG WAS BEING USED ON THE 'CHOPPERS' MAGAZINE BIKE,IN THIS ARTICLE THERE IS A QUOTE "ONCE THE MAGNETO IS INSTALLED,
TAPPET ADJUSTMENT WILL HAVE TO BE HANDLED BY THE OLD ADJUST THE INTAKE ON THE EXHAUST STROKE,RATHER THAN THE FACTORY METHOD" COLLINS DOES IT BY EYE" OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT NEED TO USE A "DEGREE WHEEL"

CAN ANYONE COMMENT,OR PASS ON ANY INFO ON THIS "TAPPET ADJUSTMENT WILL HAVE TO BE HANDLED BY THE OLD ADJUST THE INTAKE ON THE EXHAUST STROKE,RATHER THAN THE FACTORY METHOD".

MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE.

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« Reply #366 on: July 05, 2011, 11:21:14 PM »
 They are just watching the valve get opened by the rocker arm.
 If one is opening the other cylinder at TDC is ready to check.
 You can find TDC though the plug hole. Then if 1 is at the top, set #4
 IF the exhaust is opening, intake better be closed.
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« Reply #367 on: July 06, 2011, 10:21:06 AM »
CAN THE NORMAL WAY OF SETTING THE VALVE CLEARANCES BE USED,OR NOT, ARE THEY BEING TO TECHNICAL,AS THIS IS GETTING A BIT CONFUSING?

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Re: ARD Magneto
« Reply #368 on: July 06, 2011, 11:06:33 AM »
With the mag, you lose the TDC indicator from the old ignition. Adjusting the valves doesn't change. Finding TDCC is the challenge. "BY eye" will work if you know what you're looking at. There is a long patch of the cam lobe where its actually fine to set the lash, it doesn't have to be exactly at TDCC.

As 754 says, you can find TDCC watching the piston crown rise, then fall, thru the plug hole.  With a light.  You could also put a long screwdriver in the hole and while supporting it with your fingers, feel it rise with the piston.

Find it once, then make some marks of your own on the mag.
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« Reply #369 on: July 06, 2011, 10:03:06 PM »
When the oston rises keep it there;
 if 1 is up do 4
 if 2 is up do 3
 if 3 is up do 1
 if 3 is up do 2

 & yes its because there are no marks like stock.. not complicated..

 not having auto-advance, now that complicates things..
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Re: ARD Magneto
« Reply #370 on: July 26, 2011, 07:09:11 AM »
Hello everyone, I have this mag on my cb750 project and have no spark, can anyone help me with testing? and where to buy parts for these ARD mags? its the same as the one in the above pictures in this post.

please help

Wissy

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« Reply #371 on: July 26, 2011, 01:19:54 PM »
I don't think ARD exists any more mate, but the belts are available at engineering suppliers, and the magneto itself is common on old 4 cylinder tractors so a lot of parts are still around, you just can't buy them at any auto parts store. Cheers, Terry.  ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

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