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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2011, 06:36:04 AM »
Here ya go Bill. Nice buy
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2011, 10:46:21 AM »

  I agree, they WERE heavy, but Honda made some improvements after the K0 and replaced the frame, replaced the CV carbs, dropped the electric starter, replace the fenders with aluminum ones, increased the front wheel size to 21", I think there were other things that were done, but I=can't remember right off.

Crankshaft is shorter on the alternator side (no starter clutch), will not interchange - that engine cover is probably different too. Upper crankcase is different.
I have a perfect K1/K2 crank in the shop. Ball bearings on both outside crank bearings - this may have happened on earlier 350's, not sure, 450's are my real expertise.
Transmission was changed (different numbers of teeth on gears).
Kick starter is totally different - K1's and K2's engage the crank directly, can be kicked over with clutch lever pulled in.
Different cam (if I remember correctly).
Forks changed at K2, I think.
K0's are basically a regular ol' 350, for the most part.
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 11:15:46 AM »
Here ya go Bill. Nice buy

       Hey thanks, I appreciate that. I just don't know how to do that.

       

         
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2011, 11:22:32 AM »

  I agree, they WERE heavy, but Honda made some improvements after the K0 and replaced the frame, replaced the CV carbs, dropped the electric starter, replace the fenders with aluminum ones, increased the front wheel size to 21", I think there were other things that were done, but I=can't remember right off.

Crankshaft is shorter on the alternator side (no starter clutch), will not interchange - that engine cover is probably different too. Upper crankcase is different.
I have a perfect K1/K2 crank in the shop. Ball bearings on both outside crank bearings - this may have happened on earlier 350's, not sure, 450's are my real expertise.
Transmission was changed (different numbers of teeth on gears).
Kick starter is totally different - K1's and K2's engage the crank directly, can be kicked over with clutch lever pulled in.
Different cam (if I remember correctly).
Forks changed at K2, I think.
K0's are basically a regular ol' 350, for the most part.

           Thanks Bill, Always appreciate YOUR input too. Some of what you said, I knew, although I knew they didn't have the electric starter, I didn't think about the crank being different. I think you are right about the cam as well. Yes, there were alot of changes after the K0. You DID bring out some things that I either didn't know about OR had forgotten. At any rate, it IS good to know as much about differences in year models, when you are looking for parts. I think it is odd how each model of the SL350 (K0, K1 & K2 had a seemingly 2 yr run of each. Have to check serial numbers, if you don't have a title, to verify just what you DO have (actually, it IS a good idea to check the actual serial numbers any way, I imagine.  ;)
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »
Bill -

The only reason I can "remember" it is because I'm doing a total rebuild on a customer's SL K0 right now.......
Here's something I had totally forgotten about - though the K0 carbs are just plain ol' 350 carbs, they're black anodized........... I just thought these were incredibly filthy at first!!!
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2011, 03:10:12 PM »
Bill -

The only reason I can "remember" it is because I'm doing a total rebuild on a customer's SL K0 right now.......
Here's something I had totally forgotten about - though the K0 carbs are just plain ol' 350 carbs, they're black anodized........... I just thought these were incredibly filthy at first!!!

    Hey Bill, I had thought about that either, I think I knew it, at one time, because when the SL350 1st came out, I wanted one so bad, but I was in the Air Force and had no money, except what I was spending on my '66 CB72 Hawk.  ::) 
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2011, 03:19:52 PM »
Bill -

The only reason I can "remember" it is because I'm doing a total rebuild on a customer's SL K0 right now.......
Here's something I had totally forgotten about - though the K0 carbs are just plain ol' 350 carbs, they're black anodized........... I just thought these were incredibly filthy at first!!!

    Hey Bill, I had thought about that either, I think I knew it, at one time, because when the SL350 1st came out, I wanted one so bad, but I was in the Air Force and had no money, except what I was spending on my '66 CB72 Hawk.  ::) 


If you were in the Air Force back then you sure didn't have any money.  I remember making at most 200  a month when I got out.  Spent most of it on my first  Honda-a CB350..Larry

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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2011, 05:44:52 PM »
Bill -

The only reason I can "remember" it is because I'm doing a total rebuild on a customer's SL K0 right now.......
Here's something I had totally forgotten about - though the K0 carbs are just plain ol' 350 carbs, they're black anodized........... I just thought these were incredibly filthy at first!!!

    Hey Bill, I had thought about that either, I think I knew it, at one time, because when the SL350 1st came out, I wanted one so bad, but I was in the Air Force and had no money, except what I was spending on my '66 CB72 Hawk.  ::) 


If you were in the Air Force back then you sure didn't have any money.  I remember making at most 200  a month when I got out.  Spent most of it on my first  Honda-a CB350..Larry

     LOL, I hear that! and I paid $250 for my Hawk, in 1969 ( was wearing 2-stripes then) ::) AND, I was buying parts for it AND stereo equipment (not the huge high dollar stuff, but fairly decent stuff). I saw the NEW Honda CB750 Four and the NEW Kawasaki 500 Mach III come out and all I could do was drool over them.  :( 

     ALSO, on the wheel side: I was stationed at Hamilton AFB in California as my last base and I saw the '69 road runner w/ the 440 6pack, '69 Charger Daytona, '70 AAR Cuda,  '70Superbird and Challenger T/A and I couldn't touch ANY of those and kept right on drooling.

    I DID manage a '66 Charger and a '69 road runner that were 1 owner cars, when I got them.  Those were the days.  8)

 
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2011, 07:56:50 AM »

  Well, it was a pretty good hassle, but I got this one home.  ;) From these pictures, you can see what the defects (or, at least, most of them)  are, that I have listed.

       

       

       
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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 01:29:22 PM »
Bill, even though that looks "beat up" there are some great parts on it.  I'm sure you'll make a fun rider  out of it...Larry

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Re: Added Another To My Stable.
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2011, 06:55:42 PM »


Bill, even though that looks "beat up" there are some great parts on it.  I'm sure you'll make a fun rider  out of it...Larry

        Yeah, I knew it had to be worth what I paid for it, as it DOES have plenty of good parts and it runs too! I sure feel like I can have some fun with this one, thanks.  ;)

        I had realized, that the front fender is bent some and the mount is bent some as well, so figured I'd try to straighten it out. Then, when I pulled the fender and mount, I saw that the mount is cracked in 2 places, Not bad, but cracked all the same. I checked and I have another pair of fenders that are in good shape and the front mount too, that also is in good shape.  I've also got a set of locks and ignition switch with a key, that are in good shape and so, I'll swap those out and be able to lock the seat down and lock the forks. I do have the K2 side covers, like I thought, but I realized that one is cracked (the left, I think). I DO have a seat, that is in pretty good shape too. I think, that I am going to paint it, but, not in the traditional SL way. I'm thinking about coming up with a paint scheme, that will go along with my '07 Charger R/T. Not exactly sure about that exhaust system. But, I won't make a final decision on the exhaust, until I get this thing ready for the road and then see how it sounds AND how it runs with it. I'd prefer an exhaust that was built more for off road (up high and out of the way). 
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