Author Topic: Somebody tell me where this spring goes please!! (Read 2347 times)

Cowboy48 · « **on:** April 29, 2006, 04:36:40 PM »

I have performaing some basic maintenance on my 750 K5 like oil, cleaning, inspecting etc... After putting everything back together I have an extra spring left over. The only thing I can think of is that it possibly goes in with the oil filter maybe? The other items that I have removed are as follows:
tank
seat
oil pan
oil filter
exhaust
airbox
rear fender

The spring is 3/4' tall and 1' in diameter. There are 3 coils & both ends are scored so it appears that they rest against metal.

Somebody please help this newb out before I blow my new baby up

joeb · « **Reply #1 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:42:40 PM »

Check your oil filter.

Cowboy48 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:48:00 PM »

Quote from: joeb on April 29, 2006, 04:42:40 PM

Check your oil filter.

That's what my inclination is but I want to be sure for obvious reasons. Does it go on the bolt after the new filter is in place? I feel like a total moron for getting myself in this situation but not enough to risk blowing my bike up. I ask these questions with my eyes downcast and my hat in hand. Please All-powerful Vintage Veterans have mercy on a beginner like me...

seaweb11 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:53:06 PM »

Sounds like the spring for the oil filter.
A photo always helps.....

Good luck, sounds like you will be done in a few mins.

scondon · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2006, 05:05:04 PM »

Spring goes up against the filter housing and presses the filter towards the cranckase. May be a washer between filter and spring.

joeb · « **Reply #5 on:** April 29, 2006, 05:29:32 PM »

The washer may still be on the old filter.

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #6 on:** April 29, 2006, 05:31:12 PM »

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The washer may still be on the old filter.

Or in whatever you drained the oil into.. I've done that more than once. I now put a piece of old screen across the pan.

Hop on a Honda · « **Reply #7 on:** April 29, 2006, 09:46:39 PM »

Missing spring I say Flog that man Mister Christian.
Who in their right mind would leave the spring of eternal life to the innards of the only four cylinder mighty Honda engine. It's blokes like you who give us a bad name!
Stay after school Homer.You shall write one hundred times

"I shall't not ever leave my spring nor my washer in my waste oil bucket and I should always replace the oli filter when ever I change the old oil with new oil."

Mumble mumble.

Rolls Royce.

mcpuffett · « **Reply #8 on:** April 30, 2006, 02:02:31 AM »

oil filter spring

mick.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2006, 03:44:48 AM »

Quote from: Hop on a Honda on April 29, 2006, 09:46:39 PM

Missing spring I say Flog that man Mister Christian.
Who in their right mind would leave the spring of eternal life to the innards of the only four cylinder mighty Honda engine. It's blokes like you who give us a bad name!
Stay after school Homer.You shall write one hundred times

"I shall't not ever leave my spring nor my washer in my waste oil bucket and I should always replace the oli filter when ever I change the old oil with new oil."

Mumble mumble.

Rolls Royce.

Man that Agent Orange really does mess with a man's head Dave, ha ha!

Cowboy48 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 30, 2006, 07:14:20 AM »

Quote from: Hop on a Honda on April 29, 2006, 09:46:39 PM

Missing spring I say Flog that man Mister Christian.
Who in their right mind would leave the spring of eternal life to the innards of the only four cylinder mighty Honda engine. It's blokes like you who give us a bad name!
Stay after school Homer.You shall write one hundred times

"I shall't not ever leave my spring nor my washer in my waste oil bucket and I should always replace the oli filter when ever I change the old oil with new oil."

Mumble mumble.

Rolls Royce.

I have learned my lesson I promise. In my defense I did reveal my error to every SOHC'er on the planet in an effort to right a wrong. Truethfully if me making mistakes and then asking for help is going to offend everyone then I am in a lot of trouble

I just wanted to ride a bike after many years off 2 wheelers, it was you guys who convinced me to actually wrench on the thing! BTW I was changing the filter while I was changing the oil as well as removing the oil pan and cleaning the screen. I was trying to do it right I just got careless with the spring, thats all.

mcpuffett · « **Reply #11 on:** April 30, 2006, 07:18:23 AM »

no offence taken

, you are better to ask than guess

mick.

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #12 on:** April 30, 2006, 07:43:05 AM »

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Truethfully if me making mistakes and then asking for help is going to offend everyone then I am in a lot of trouble

Alot of us would be.

8 Track · « **Reply #13 on:** April 30, 2006, 08:36:39 AM »

I have to look at this picture every time I change the oil filter. I just can't seem to remember the stackup!

Cowboy48 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 30, 2006, 08:53:58 AM »

Quote from: twostrokecrazy on April 30, 2006, 08:36:39 AM

I have to look at this picture every time I change the oil filter. I just can't seem to remember the stackup!

Thanks for the visual aid. I am certain that there was no washer when I took the old filter off so I will have to replace that today. I have a screen over the oil container and I checked the old filter for it. I guess this was a blessing in disguise because I would have never known there was supposed to be a washer in there if I hadn't left the spring out. Thanks for all the replies everyone.

malcolmgb · « **Reply #15 on:** April 30, 2006, 10:23:51 AM »

you also mention removing oil pan (sump), does the 750 engine have a spring behind the the pick up filter the same as the 400???

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2006, 10:29:23 AM »

The only springs in the 750 pump assemblies, at least the early ones, are for the check valve and the pressure relief valve, nothing directly associated with the filter/pick-up screen.

crazypj · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2006, 11:20:18 AM »

You already have the correct position for spring, as for the washer, it was almost always missing by the second service.(even if serviced by Honda dealer

) Someone would get into a rush ( paricularly on flat rate), toss the old filter and just fit a new one. Its a standard shim washer, about 1/2mm thick.(0.020") Forget the inside and outside diameters. we always kept 10 in stock and ordered 50 at a time as it fits all the inline fours until they went with spin on filter in the mid 80's
PJ

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #18 on:** April 30, 2006, 02:06:53 PM »

The ID is 20mm and the OD is about 30mm, from memory. Cheers, Terry.

cadler · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2006, 09:21:00 AM »

look on your old oil filter for the washer, it tends to stick to it.
Craig

dusterdude · « **Reply #20 on:** May 01, 2006, 10:29:46 AM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on April 30, 2006, 02:06:53 PM

The ID is 20mm and the OD is about 30mm, from memory. Cheers, Terry.

memory,hah!!

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #21 on:** May 01, 2006, 11:41:30 AM »

Memory failure, isn't that some sort of glandular thing? Oh, never mind, I'm thinking of mammory glands.

Hyseman · « **Reply #22 on:** May 01, 2006, 12:20:23 PM »

I am a newbee on this sohc4 bike stuff. I will be performing my 1st oil change in about an hour and I would like to thank you for all the advise.

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Author Topic: Somebody tell me where this spring goes please!! (Read 2347 times)

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