Author Topic: Amy Winehouse just joined the '27' club (Read 2372 times)

Damfino · « **on:** July 23, 2011, 10:09:23 AM »

They told her to stay in rehab, but she said no, no, no...

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43866337/ns/today-entertainment/

malcolmgb · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2011, 10:23:40 AM »

Yes just heard, very sad but predictable. RIP Amy

simon#42 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2011, 12:22:50 PM »

a brilliant talent , a terrible waste

bwaller · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:21:21 PM »

It's awful. An awful age too or so it seems.

voxonda · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2011, 02:58:44 PM »

No matter what we thought of her, she was talented and just a kid................................really breaks my heart.
Hope you find your peace now, Amy. R.I.P

socalenduro · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2011, 05:55:05 PM »

sadly the best art come from the most tortured soles......

Stev-o · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM »

Betting it's a drug overdose.

Who else died at 27?

nomad · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2011, 07:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on July 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM

Betting it's a drug overdose.

Who else died at 27?

Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Kurt Cobain...

I however, think Winehouse paled in comparison to any of the previously mentioned artists.

BeSeeingYou · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:32:37 AM »

I heard it on the radio and my thought was "that's no surprise". Although I don't see it as anymore important or noteworthy than any of the other people that died today.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:38:54 AM »

Quote from: socalenduro on July 23, 2011, 05:55:05 PM

sadly the best art come from the most tortured soles......

I was a tortured soul myself when I attended Cobain's public ceremonies in Seattle Center.

I heard the Amy Winehouse thing here.. just now,,, by the way. But Cobain I had just arrived in a new city in '94 and ,,well y'know.

Honda Brat · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:56:13 AM »

Quote from: tree fiddy of industry on July 24, 2011, 12:38:54 AM

Quote from: socalenduro on July 23, 2011, 05:55:05 PM
sadly the best art come from the most tortured soles......

I was a tortured soul myself when I attended Cobain's public ceremonies in Seattle Center.

I heard the Amy Winehouse thing here.. just now,,, by the way. But Cobain I had just arrived in a new city in '94 and ,,well y'know.

Gotta agree, I first heard Nirvana in 88, at the time I was fighting everyone and the music made sense, I followed them ever since in one way or another. On the 10th anniversary of Kurt's death we went to some of the places and homes of Cobain, it was part of the trip me and my friend arranged when we holidayed in the US.

From what I know of Cobains life he was pretty much screwed up from a young kid, there were suicides in his family previously, and Courtney Love f'ed him up pretty good. Amy Winehouse wasn't a tortured soul, yeah her boyfriend was an arsehole but she just got into the drug and party scene. It ended her life, so that is a tragedy but I wouldn''t compare her life in the same league as Kurt's.

Honda Brat · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2011, 01:00:20 AM »

Quote from: srust58 on July 24, 2011, 12:32:37 AM

I heard it on the radio and my thought was "that's no surprise". Although I don't see it as anymore important or noteworthy than any of the other people that died today.

absolutely agree, 91 people killed in Oslo and 84? by a kid with a gun!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657475/Norway-killings-The-laughing-gunman-who-shot-85-young-victims-one-by-one.html

Honda Brat · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2011, 02:42:06 AM »

thanks for the link, interesting read. Not to open a can of worms and via off this thread but still not too sure about the circumstances of Kurt's death

Rocking-M · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2011, 04:05:26 AM »

Quote from: nomad on July 23, 2011, 07:48:47 PM

Quote from: Stev-o on July 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
Betting it's a drug overdose.

Who else died at 27?

Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Kurt Cobain...

I however, think Winehouse paled in comparison to any of the previously mentioned artists.

ditto, still she had talent and a unique voice it's a shame drugs got her.

demon78 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2011, 04:32:11 AM »

Being an old creature and being into the Jazz scene there were multiple
drug and booze deaths in that area, in fact I read some where that if you didn't use you couldn't keep up with the creativity, I wonder how it was in Beethoven's time, how many fell by the wayside. Seems to come in waves, don't it.
Bill the demon.

tramp · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2011, 02:45:36 PM »

anyone know how she died?

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2011, 03:22:40 PM »

Quote from: demon71 on July 24, 2011, 04:32:11 AM

Being an old creature and being into the Jazz scene there were multiple
drug and booze deaths in that area, in fact I read some where that if you didn't use you couldn't keep up with the creativity, I wonder how it was in Beethoven's time, how many fell by the wayside. Seems to come in waves, don't it.
Bill the demon.

Death by Syphilis doesn't sound fun.

Stev-o · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2011, 08:44:59 PM »

Quote from: nomad on July 23, 2011, 07:48:47 PM

Quote from: Stev-o on July 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
Betting it's a drug overdose.

Who else died at 27?

Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Kurt Cobain...

And there were two more: Brian Jones [Rolling Stones] and Blues legend Robert Johnson.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #18 on:** July 25, 2011, 12:50:05 AM »

Quote from: Stev-o on July 24, 2011, 08:44:59 PM

Quote from: nomad on July 23, 2011, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on July 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
Betting it's a drug overdose.

Who else died at 27?

Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Kurt Cobain...

And there were two more: Brian Jones [Rolling Stones] and Blues legend Robert Johnson.

From what I learned from the art school tiolet stalls, Bryan Jones died for your sins,
RobertJohnson was fed some poison achohol or ethanol or something like that by another jealous suitor or something like that.

Lemme know if what I heard was wrong, please.

Damfino · « **Reply #19 on:** July 25, 2011, 10:00:59 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2011, 10:25:34 AM »

Quote from: Honda Brat on July 24, 2011, 12:56:13 AM

Quote from: tree fiddy of industry on July 24, 2011, 12:38:54 AM
Quote from: socalenduro on July 23, 2011, 05:55:05 PM
sadly the best art come from the most tortured soles......

I was a tortured soul myself when I attended Cobain's public ceremonies in Seattle Center.

I heard the Amy Winehouse thing here.. just now,,, by the way. But Cobain I had just arrived in a new city in '94 and ,,well y'know.

Gotta agree, I first heard Nirvana in 88, at the time I was fighting everyone and the music made sense, I followed them ever since in one way or another. On the 10th anniversary of Kurt's death we went to some of the places and homes of Cobain, it was part of the trip me and my friend arranged when we holidayed in the US.

From what I know of Cobains life he was pretty much screwed up from a young kid, there were suicides in his family previously, and Courtney Love f'ed him up pretty good. Amy Winehouse wasn't a tortured soul, yeah her boyfriend was an arsehole but she just got into the drug and party scene. It ended her life, so that is a tragedy but I wouldn''t compare her life in the same league as Kurt's.

Tragedy my ass, sad maybe- I am having a hard time feeling sympathetic about this.
She made the choice to do hard drugs and end her life prematurely- she had a choice- no tragedy there.

A tragedy is when some inncocent kid disappears off the streetsand is killed by some homicidal dirtball.
Or a busload of people goes off the side of a mountain in a huge fireball of death.

This is hardly tragic.

Damfino · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2011, 10:39:56 AM »

"Yeah,... you're right, Ed. A parachute not opening... that's a way to die. Getting caught in the gears of a combine... having your nuts bit off by a Laplander, that's the way I wanna go!"

Goldbug · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2011, 12:25:30 PM »

Quote from: Industrial-sized Dukiedook on July 25, 2011, 10:25:34 AM

Tragedy my ass, sad maybe- I am having a hard time feeling sympathetic about this. She made the choice to do hard drugs and end her life prematurely- she had a choice- no tragedy there.

Actually this perfectly fits the definition of tragedy:

Quote

a dramatic composition, often in verse, dealing with a serious or somber theme, typically that of a great person destined through a flaw of character or conflict with some overpowering force, as fate or society, to downfall or destruction.

Anyhow, that being pointed out, I'd also like to point out that addiction is a disease. I've seen many people succumb to it. I wouldn't look them in they eye and tell them in the final stages of their disease that they chose it, nor would I tell their friends and family members who went through it with them that it didn't fit my made up description of what a tragedy is.

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2011, 01:32:42 PM »

Ah yes, take it completely out of the hands of the rational, thinking person and call a decision a disease. Like they had no hand in the decision, the drugs MADE them do it. Bull#$%*.

I think people with cancer and other REAL deseases would beg to differ with your labeling drug addiction a disease. What you have is a drug problem and the fact you can't stop doing it for whatever reason- name a few.

She chose to do drugs, a conscious decision- I love it when people like to play the victim in these circumstances, "I had no choice, I am a victim of the drugs that somehow made their way into my body- mysteriously without my consent."

Goldbug · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2011, 02:46:40 PM »

Quote from: Industrial-sized Dukiedook on July 25, 2011, 01:32:42 PM

Ah yes, take it completely out of the hands of the rational, thinking person and call a decision a disease. Like they had no hand in the decision, the drugs MADE them do it. Bull#$%*.

Doing drugs is not a disease, addiction is the disease. Just like any other personality disorder such as OCD, Anxiety or Depression. I'm not making this up, maybe you should do a little research before you call it "Bull#$%*"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Addiction_Medicine

Quote from: Industrial-sized Dukiedook on July 25, 2011, 01:32:42 PM

I think people with cancer and other REAL deseases would beg to differ with your labeling drug addiction a disease. What you have is a drug problem and the fact you can't stop doing it for whatever reason- name a few.

They can beg to differ all they want but it doesn't change medical facts.

Quote from: Industrial-sized Dukiedook on July 25, 2011, 01:32:42 PM

She chose to do drugs, a conscious decision- I love it when people like to play the victim in these circumstances, "I had no choice, I am a victim of the drugs that somehow made their way into my body- mysteriously without my consent."

Most of my experience is with alcoholism and nicotine addiction (that then causes "REAL deseases" like cancer). You never had a beer or smoked a cigarette before? Some people can't control it. They don't know when to stop. They are addicts. Have you ever even seen a person die of alcoholism? I used to think like you until I did. It really is a clinical thing, I do not care if you don't believe it. Not my problem.

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Author Topic: Amy Winehouse just joined the '27' club (Read 2372 times)

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