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Offline CR750

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WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« on: July 04, 2011, 08:18:44 AM »
does anyone have one gathering dust in their shed (and want to part with it for a decent price ) ?
Honda part nr.: 53700273000 
Would make me very happy; as I want to use it on my CR replica.

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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 08:55:15 AM »
I've been looking for one of those for a while now, if you get offered 2 let me know please.  ;)
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 11:38:06 AM »
will do ! But let's first see if there's any member offering ... as I too am looking for some time now ;-)
NOS shows up on Ebay sometimes, but at crazy prices ( at least for me - it's a hobby - albeit a costly one ).
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 12:46:09 PM »
does anyone have one gathering dust in their shed (and want to part with it for a decent price ) ?
Would make me very happy; as I want to use it on my CR replica.

Sander

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Talk to Lordmoonpie.. Im sure he can help you out!! 

But does anyone have a petcock for the Bartel Rep. tank.... cant find the CR250/500 from before 80 anywhere!!  :'( :'(
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 11:37:16 PM »
does anyone have one gathering dust in their shed (and want to part with it for a decent price ) ?
Would make me very happy; as I want to use it on my CR replica.

Sander

Looks like this:

Talk to Lordmoonpie.. Im sure he can help you out!! 

But does anyone have a petcock for the Bartel Rep. tank.... cant find the CR250/500 from before 80 anywhere!!  :'( :'(
I haven't got any CL77 dampers anywhere I'm afriad. I can supply a modern damper with internal rod like these (as oppose to the usual modern pass through rod design) but that's about it.

Jimmy - you should save a search on ebay for those petcocks they do come up regularly. Alternatively you could try David Silver or CSMNL?
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 02:55:29 AM »
does anyone have one gathering dust in their shed (and want to part with it for a decent price ) ?
Would make me very happy; as I want to use it on my CR replica.

Sander

Looks like this:

Talk to Lordmoonpie.. Im sure he can help you out!! 

But does anyone have a petcock for the Bartel Rep. tank.... cant find the CR250/500 from before 80 anywhere!!  :'( :'(
I haven't got any CL77 dampers anywhere I'm afriad. I can supply a modern damper with internal rod like these (as oppose to the usual modern pass through rod design) but that's about it.

Jimmy - you should save a search on ebay for those petcocks they do come up regularly. Alternatively you could try David Silver or CSMNL?

LMP, Ive been searchin Ebay forever... well at least it feels like it.. just like my build  ;D ;D
Anyways, my buddy Nap AKA napoleonb hooked me up with a really nice one.... my plan was to go through CSMNL but then I might aswell cast one myself in gold or Titanium  ::) ;D


Did you ever see their prices on the CR rep. parts???  http://www.cmsnl.com/products/full-spec-complete-race_crbi04/  3K Euro for what to be looking like the Bartel gas tank!!! or choose the intire kit for 32K Euro!!! :-X :-X
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 03:38:56 AM »

Hi to all;

Honda does not make it anymore, or so it seems.

- Cmnsl does not offer it ( otherwhise it would be 103 euro - I would buy a new one from them for that )
- David Silver does not offer it.
- tried a lot of local suppliers + google to no avail; hence my shout here.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 06:02:29 AM »
Hi Sander,

There is on up on ebay at the moment, doesn't look to pricy to me.
Otherwise you can try and mail to the following supplier (if it is still in stock over there)
http://www.parts-planet.com/products.html?action=showitems&keywords=&begin=3748&maker=21

I have been looking everywhere in our little country but also without succes, I settled for the LMP solution.

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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 07:06:57 AM »
Hi Nap,

thnx for the tips.
The pic I posted i actually from that offer.
The one you mention cost 250 dollar + 40 dollar is 290 USD (+ import fees ! ).
I estimate the total will go well over 300 USD.

That's more then I am willing to spend/I do find that too costly for that specific part, and he's not open for bidding.

Ps.
The link you provided show all info in Russian on their homepage and no contact info ?
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 07:45:31 AM »
Hi Sander,

Sorry mate, didn't notice the rest of the site was in Russian.
The register form is in English so you could give it a try my guess is that they will send you a login code by email.
Using http://nl.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt you should be able to translate the site although i wasn't able to find an email address.

Good luck!

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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 08:29:45 AM »
Sorry Guys.........I've been out riding my bike with my daughter for the last few days............I have a few of the CL77 steering dampners in my stash.........I restore those bikes and always looking for AFFORDABLE parts.  In the past 2 years I have been paying more to acquire the dampeners so if you looking for decent units that will need some polishing and are not perfect in the dampening process (maybe someone can figure out how to rebuild them) I have them at $50 each plus shipping cost.  Two are already promised (Sam & CR750)

Anyone else?.............I will keep acquiring units as I find them.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 09:55:16 AM »
Sorry Guys.........I've been out riding my bike with my daughter for the last few days............I have a few of the CL77 steering dampners in my stash.........I restore those bikes and always looking for AFFORDABLE parts.  In the past 2 years I have been paying more to acquire the dampeners so if you looking for decent units that will need some polishing and are not perfect in the dampening process (maybe someone can figure out how to rebuild them) I have them at $50 each plus shipping cost.  Two are already promised (Sam & CR750)

Anyone else?.............I will keep acquiring units as I find them.

Dennis, did you get Billys address I PMed to you.
I will paypal the money to you, I have your address somewhere but PM it to me again to save me searching and I'll get it off to you.

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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 10:07:19 AM »
Sorry Guys.........I've been out riding my bike with my daughter for the last few days............I have a few of the CL77 steering dampners in my stash.........I restore those bikes and always looking for AFFORDABLE parts.  In the past 2 years I have been paying more to acquire the dampeners so if you looking for decent units that will need some polishing and are not perfect in the dampening process (maybe someone can figure out how to rebuild them) I have them at $50 each plus shipping cost.  Two are already promised (Sam & CR750)

Anyone else?.............I will keep acquiring units as I find them.

Put one aside for me please.

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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 02:21:51 PM »
Hi Dennis,

great news ! I will PM you with my details and how to take care of the payment.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2011, 04:22:23 AM »
Hey Dennis,

did you see my PM and response ?! Love to hear from your regarding the damper !

Sander
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2011, 10:24:44 AM »
My annual Fund Raiser event was this past weekend.........Now to catch up on some work!  Will be delving into my stabilizers on Tuesday with a trip to the PO for shipping costs to each of you..........Thanks for waiting.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2011, 08:08:49 AM »
Great to hear from you Dennis !

Hope the fund raiser went well !

I was feeling a bit like a donkey with a carrot in front of him  :o impatient, sorry for that.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2011, 06:25:15 PM »


  As has been said, those dampers ARE pretty few and far between. I looked for quite awhile for one to put on my Super Hawk Cafe Build and finally got a nice one, not too badly priced. I am needing to come up with the lower CL mount for the thing, myself. I don't see a problem attaching it to the lower triple tree.  ;)
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2011, 02:29:41 PM »
Hey Bill............If your still looking, I have a lower mount for your damper........$8 delivered unless you need some more parts. PM your address and I will PM the paypal address.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 02:09:36 PM »
The damping on the one I have leaves something to be desired, not too surprising really considering it's 40+ years old. however, pulling back the rubber it appears that it may be possible to dismantle it as there are four small holes in the end of the damper body that presumably were used to put it together with a special tool. So the question is, has anyone tried to refurbish these dampers with any success?
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2011, 12:37:17 AM »
Eric, it might be worth having a word with Ron Williams at Maxton, he might be able to help, worth a try.

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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2011, 05:03:21 AM »
Nothing ventured nothing gained. Thanks Sam, I'll give him a try. There is also Rob Evans of Kernow Shocks down in Cornwall who refurbishes shock absorbers. He did a spiffing job on a pair of Kawasaki H1 shocks for me, so that's another possibility.
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Re: WANTED: CL77 steering damper
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2011, 12:03:35 PM »
I am actually gonna have a go at refurbishing one, whith the victem ( severely broken one for all purists out there) kindly donated by old scrambler. It's still over the oceans somewhere but as soon as I have a go at it I'll report back.

I think opening one up will not be the hard part.
But it might be that there's some part in there which I can't replicate easily, but I hope with my Emco Lathe and Mill, it should be possible to whip up most parts in pom/nylon/brass as good or better then the original. Let's hope there's no rubber specialities in there as those are not easily replicated.
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