Let me address this one at a time:
I was wondering when Geeto was going to chime in with his usual attacks. You don't know the guy. Calling him a liar and a douche ? To me, sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. Your posts are just mean spirited. Plain and simple.
yeah I haven't posted on here in like a year. Usual? hardly.
Cafe Racer TV isn't his show. He was invited to be on the show.
Why would I ever relay to him your internet bully crap ?
but it is his reputation. I dunno why you want to defend him so badly on the internets, apparently it is crap.
You make it seem like he just stole that bike from the PO and told him he'd love it, hug it, squeeze it and baby it for the rest of his life. The man was paid more than fair for that bike. Now myself, I wouldn't have paid that much for something that I was intending to chop, but it's not my money or bike. The parts aren't being thrown away - I have the seat on my daily rider. It's his bike. It will continue to live on the road for many years to come.
I said noting about the bike itself or the deal. You said he paid a fair price for it, I believe you. It is his to cut up. I don't have an issue with the actuals of what happened. I have an issue with the fakeness of it all which you admited to in a previous post. Before that I was upset that he chose to hack somethings which there were obvious cheaper and better replacements for (when they wee cutting the unicorn triple tree all I could think of was "why do that? it is just going to crack, doesn't he know the later castings are much better/stronger?")
The bike can't stand on it's own ? Put that thing anywhere and it will draw a crowd. He doesn't need chopper TV - that's all the producers of the show. He was invited to be a guest.
Then why did he need all that drama? Seriously? I watched him "baiting" a reaction out of the P/O and all I could think about was "what a jerk". He may not even be a jerk in real life but he sure looked like one for the sake of TV. Surronding your bike with a lot of BS drama shows a lack of confidence in the build and an insecurity in the builder. I am sure that bike will draw a crowd, there are many more people attracted to shiny things than actually know about motorcycles. It isn't my cup of Tea, and it really won't hold a candle to the rickman/cr750 racebikes I was drooling over at mid-ohio, but it did take talent to build and I recognize that.
Solving the problems of the show are completely another matter. You can't market a show for an audience of 100 people that might actually know what it was like back in the day at the ACE cafe... You have to appeal to the masses or your off in 3 episodes. That's not his fault. I do wish that they would feature more guys like Deegens.
I am not saying Fuller had to "solve" the problems of the show. I don't know whose decision it was to decieve the audience but at the end of the day Fuller went along with it and it is his actions. That was a conscious choice he made to compromise his integrity for the sake of "Good TV". Nobody twisted his arm to do it, there was no gun to his head, some mafia/cartel wasn't holding his family hostage threatening to kill them if he didn't build a bike for TV. He made choices about how he was to be portrayed on TV, choices that were deceptive to his audience. That in my book makes him a liar and a douche, or to put into better terms compromising your integrity and your reputation for the sake of pulling a reaction from an audience in the hopes for better ratings/more business makes you appear weak willed and untrust worthy. I have said nothing about his talent, the guy is talented for sure, he is driven as well - you can see that. He just isn't worth of my respect because he thinks it is funny/good TV to decieve people and call it reality. Even if it wasn't his call he had the choice to walk away and say "I as a person am more valuable than that". He didn't.
I think the previous owner handled it best. He just watched, and at the end said - well I hope it handles after your are done. Not showing me a lot of confidence but if what you are saying is true then I def mistook the P/O's attitude. What I thought was choking back slight anxeity was probably him going "why am I here". Looking at it again I can actually see the sheer boredom on his face.
greenjeans - give me one honest reason that doesn't compromise his integrity why fuller should pretend the stuff is trash when the camera is rolling and then fish it out of the trash once they stop recording? Oh I forget, I am just a mean spirited jagg-off not worth of your responses or time.
Next time you guys are in the NY area, I am happy to sit down and have a civil conversation about anything under the sun over beers. PM me, I am not joking. You are so big on saying meet us in person I'll buy the first 3 rounds as an enticement.
