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Offline Stev-o

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My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« on: April 01, 2016, 07:31:42 AM »
Some of you guys may remember, I restored this bike last year. Totally rebuilt motor, bored, new Wiseco's, rebuilt crank, no expense spared.
Had a little trouble tuning it, but after tossing the aftermarket carb brass, the bike ran great!

Well, it was a beautiful day yesterday [85 degrees!] and I thought I would take it for a ride.
It was running great and I was really pushing it but I missed a shift...WTF!

I over rev'd it and not sure what happened, but it will barely run now. I was lucky to get it home, less than 5 miles. I was so sick, I just parked it in the garage.

Well, I just called my local Kawasaki dealer, explained every little detail to the service manager. He said "no problem, you must have bent a valve, bring it in and we'll fix it for you".

I dont typically go to the dealer, but I dont know these Kawasaki's as well as my Hondas, he sounded very confident in knowing the issue and being able to repair it, so I am going with it.

What would you do?
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2016, 08:01:51 AM »
What valves, intake or exhaust? Last time I checked the H1 2 stroke doesn't have any. I would question the dealers confidence.
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2016, 09:51:57 AM »
Quote from: Powderman on April 01, 2016, 08:01:51 AM
What valves, intake or exhaust? Last time I checked the H1 2 stroke doesn't have any. I would question the dealers confidence.

Heh, yeah, valves... ::)

Maybe a broken ring or blown seal.  I would seek counsel somewhere else other than that dealer..
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 08:31:25 PM by CycleRanger »
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2016, 01:44:37 PM »
may also be april fools day
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2016, 04:43:16 PM »
Bahahahaha.... :o  Nice try mate....
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2016, 04:51:56 PM »
That's 2 I "almost" fell for today. 8)
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2016, 04:53:28 PM »
Man I am gullible...and I was just written' out a check for Stev-o :)  Good one...
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2016, 08:16:44 PM »
You guys are just too smart!    Me going to the dealer should've been a dead giveaway - I don't even know where the Kawasaki dealer is! Nor would I ever go there. 
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2016, 08:17:58 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
You guys are just too smart!    Me going to the dealer should've been a dead giveaway - I don't even know where the Kawasaki dealer is! Nor would I ever go there.

I thought valves in a 2 stroke was a bigger clue.... :P  Not to mention, you not knowing the difference... ;)
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2016, 08:28:40 PM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 01, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
You guys are just too smart!    Me going to the dealer should've been a dead giveaway - I don't even know where the Kawasaki dealer is! Nor would I ever go there.

I thought valves in a 2 stroke was a bigger clue.... :P  Not to mention, you not knowing the difference... ;)


There actually are some check valves in the oil injection system, but they could not bend.
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2016, 08:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:28:40 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 01, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
You guys are just too smart!    Me going to the dealer should've been a dead giveaway - I don't even know where the Kawasaki dealer is! Nor would I ever go there.

I thought valves in a 2 stroke was a bigger clue.... :P  Not to mention, you not knowing the difference... ;)


There actually are some check valves in the oil injection system, but they could not bend.

Over revving wouldn't effect them either... ;)
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2016, 08:58:46 PM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 01, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:28:40 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 01, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
You guys are just too smart!    Me going to the dealer should've been a dead giveaway - I don't even know where the Kawasaki dealer is! Nor would I ever go there.

I thought valves in a 2 stroke was a bigger clue.... :P  Not to mention, you not knowing the difference... ;)


There actually are some check valves in the oil injection system, but they could not bend.

Over revving wouldn't effect them either... ;)

No it wouldn't, but the dumbass service manager wouldn't know that!
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2016, 09:18:11 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 01, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:28:40 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on April 01, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
You guys are just too smart!    Me going to the dealer should've been a dead giveaway - I don't even know where the Kawasaki dealer is! Nor would I ever go there.

I thought valves in a 2 stroke was a bigger clue.... :P  Not to mention, you not knowing the difference... ;)


There actually are some check valves in the oil injection system, but they could not bend.

Over revving wouldn't effect them either... ;)

No it wouldn't, but the dumbass service manager wouldn't know that!

 ;D
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2016, 04:49:47 AM »
The "over-revving" was a dead giveaway. We all know Stev-o only ever rides like an old lady!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2016, 05:46:28 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on April 02, 2016, 04:49:47 AM
The "over-revving" was a dead giveaway. We all know Stev-o only ever rides like an old lady!  ;D ;D ;D

Good point.... :P
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2016, 06:17:06 AM »
 I was thinking a blown "muffler bearing" ;)
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 06:38:05 AM »
Quote from: ekpent on April 02, 2016, 06:17:06 AM
I was thinking a blown "muffler bearing" ;)
Twisted johnson rod. ::)
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2016, 07:55:56 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on April 02, 2016, 04:49:47 AM
The "over-revving" was a dead giveaway. We all know Stev-o only ever rides like an old lady!  ;D ;D ;D

Ha!
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2016, 08:38:51 AM »
Stev-o just send my check back then OK :)
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2016, 09:08:01 AM »
Well now..guess I can toss them shipping quotes for sending you a fresh rebuilt  69 motor...
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2016, 09:14:20 AM »
Quote from: 754 on April 02, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
Well now..guess I can toss them shipping quotes for sending you a fresh rebuilt  69 motor...

Wait wait wait, I want that motor!


Quote from: Johnie on April 02, 2016, 08:38:51 AM
Stev-o just send my check back then OK :)

Ok, but can you send me one of those K0's instead? Do you REALLY need 2?!!
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2016, 08:46:42 PM »
You might first check your points Stev-o,that over-revvin' might have spun a bit of points cam lube onto the contact surfaces.. 3) sets of points,just sayin'..  ::)
I then clean the contacts w/ a bit of light filing and check timing again.
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Re: My '74 Kawasaki H1 500
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2016, 08:42:47 PM »
Quote from: grcamna2 on April 02, 2016, 08:46:42 PM
You might first check your points Stev-o...

No points! And thats no bull...
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