Topic: 2011 World Championship of Custom Bike Building - CB750s take #1 and #2

[Retro Rocket]

RetroRocket - Never once said that this site wasn't home to some very knowledgeable & talented people - pretty sure they weren't the people I was referring to so don't degrade them by putting them in that category.

Interesting twist mate, i never said that you did either, it was your "educate us" statement that drew that.  Degrade them, thats funny, I have nothing but praise for the builders and technicians on this forum, there are guys here that are fabbing brilliant parts mainly due to the demand here, and i have bought plenty,  i applaud these guys, you couldn't be further from the truth. Look, i don't care what anyone builds but this is a public forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion, your bikes may be well made but that bike looks like the whole cafe, toaster and all, it looks unbalanced  and weird,  thats my opinion.

[m in sc]

I stand by my comments. Might be fast, might be built to a great quality, thats cool. but the lines on them suck in my opinion. never questioned the functionality or quality of fabrication. but the arrogance behind the builder really makes me not like it that much more. The minute somebody starts off an argument ' i was a certified *** tech for ** yrs' is about as good as hearing 'have a blessed day'. I turn the ears off. Some of the BEST CUSTOM BIKES in the world were built by people who don't do it for a living. IE: Allan Millyard.
Not me, but i have seen them. You dont want the criticism along w/the accolades, then don't show it to the public. Because you are going to get both sides. the true pro takes it as a gentleman.

just my .02




 

[aft customs]

Terry - originally before I started this project Lee Chapin & 1 of his engineers at Mikuni thought the 42 would work & I had one. It works great on a 1700cc V-Twin Road Star as an example so I thought it might be too big for a 750cc. Our manifold is ported & I tried to keep the 1 & 4 lengths as close as possible. They're about an inch longer. I went up from a #25 to a #30 pilot & from a 160 to a 205 on the main. Raised the needle all the way. I got the richer needle today so the main may be too rich. I'll have to continue playing with it. That's why I think a 45 would be better.This thing needs a lot of fuel. I've never tried to put a single carb on an in line 4 before so it's an experiment. Each time I raise the jetting it runs better. My buddy has a dyno but I'm trying to get it as close as possible the old fashioned way before I take it to him. He's giving me the time so I want to waste as little of it as possible. It ran better in Sturgis because it's 2k higher in elevation than my location.  We're 8 hours north of L.A.You're welcome any time.

[Terry in Australia]

Terry - originally before I started this project Lee Chapin & 1 of his engineers at Mikuni thought the 42 would work & I had one. It works great on a 1700cc V-Twin Road Star as an example so I thought it might be too big for a 750cc. Our manifold is ported & I tried to keep the 1 & 4 lengths as close as possible. They're about an inch longer. I went up from a #25 to a #30 pilot & from a 160 to a 205 on the main. Raised the needle all the way. I got the richer needle today so the main may be too rich. I'll have to continue playing with it. That's why I think a 45 would be better.This thing needs a lot of fuel. I've never tried to put a single carb on an in line 4 before so it's an experiment. Each time I raise the jetting it runs better. My buddy has a dyno but I'm trying to get it as close as possible the old fashioned way before I take it to him. He's giving me the time so I want to waste as little of it as possible. It ran better in Sturgis because it's 2k higher in elevation than my location.  We're 8 hours north of L.A.You're welcome any time.

Thanks mate, I'll try to get over to see it, for sure! Cheers, Terry.

[scottly]

Welcome to the forums, aft, and congratulations on the award!
Hey Terry, can you smuggle in some of those K7-8 sized phenolic brake pistons? I gave up trying to find them over here when the relay got close... The Seeley is a gnat's arse from 400 pounds now.

[Terry in Australia]

Welcome to the forums, aft, and congratulations on the award!
Hey Terry, can you smuggle in some of those K7-8 sized phenolic brake pistons? I gave up trying to find them over here when the relay got close... The Seeley is a gnat's arse from 400 pounds now.

G'Day Mate, are the K7/8 brake pistons the same size as K0-6? I've got some nice hard anodized aluminum brake pistons here, they're lighter than the phenolics! Cheers, Terry.

[scottly]

The K7-K8 pistons are about 42.7 mm. If the aluminum pistons are lighter than the phenolic, I think I'll just fab up a set and give them a try. Thanks!

[Terry in Australia]

The K7-K8 pistons are about 42.7 mm. If the aluminum pistons are lighter than the phenolic, I think I'll just fab up a set and give them a try. Thanks!

No worries mate, they'd be easy to machine up, just get 'em hard anodized to protect them from welding themselves into the calipers due to electrolysis. I don't have a set of scales handy, but they're much lighter than the phenolics, using my trusty "seat-of-the-pantsometer" Cheers, Terry.

[moham]

hahaha, this thread got funny when i wasn't looking

aft customs, well done on the bike and welcome to the internet :p

[aft customs]

I would like to make a few statements in defence of the custom bike market. We are all motorcycle enthusiasts & because this is my profession I encourage all people who enjoy 2 wheels. Everyone has their dream bike in their mind or in their possession. Not everyone is capable of building their dream bike. We custom builders help make that dream a reality. Every dream is different. We compete on a global scale & our CB has been very popular in the US,Asia & Europe especially with younger riders. The CB750 is gaining popularity in the young guys which is so cool to see. Harley is really worried about how they're going to catch this market. Young guys don't want their dads bike (Harley) but that's not true with the CB! Most of the AFT Girls are under 30 & are exposed to all types of bikes & they love my 75 F. When I said we were building a SOHC Cafe bike they were stoked. You would expect them to want sport bikes but they love the CB. Can't say they enjoyed putting the cylinders on though! A young guy coming on this site won't be encouraged to persue his dream if he is slammed with insults. People come here to be educated & share their love for the CB .Someone was insulted about the education remark but this whole site is dedicated to people educating one another. I've been doing this 34 years & have already learned a lot by poking around the different areas on this site. I would definitely use a dry clutch on a CB project in the future as an example. That's sick - didn't know that was available or soon to be.
Dream On!

[Gearheadgreg]

AfT, Nice looking bikes man,,!! I read your statement and seen the negative comments from a Troll,,  Your wright WTF IS UP GUYS!!!! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!! (LETS SEE SOME PIC"S OF THIS TALENT THAT THESE CRITICS  OWN!)  Anyway...........I run a HSR 45 Fltatside on my Blown 6 GL1500 Honda, and with some conversations with Bill Bushing @ Magnacharger who engineered my Manifold for the Valk, Magnacharger  now offers a Upgrade Kit  to Delete the 40MM Kehin CV carb and we have found allmost 25HP more with the new 45 Mikuini and up to 10 mpg more in fuel economy,,Rock On Dude,,

[the technological J]

the bikes are far more indepth than the pics do justice i wish they would have posted some thing better

AFT can you post a vid of the bike running as well as a walk around? show this baby off! do her justice(you got first for crying out loud!)... far more than the poor pics that caused the witchhunt to begin...(guilty here jumped on the mudslinging band wagon)

[Retro Rocket]

AfT, Nice looking bikes man,,!! I read your statement and seen the negative comments from a Troll,,  Your wright WTF IS UP GUYS!!!! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!! (LETS SEE SOME PIC"S OF THIS TALENT THAT THESE CRITICS  OWN!)  Anyway...........I run a HSR 45 Fltatside on my Blown 6 GL1500 Honda, and with some conversations with Bill Bushing @ Magnacharger who engineered my Manifold for the Valk, Magnacharger  now offers a Upgrade Kit  to Delete the 40MM Kehin CV carb and we have found allmost 25HP more with the new 45 Mikuini and up to 10 mpg more in fuel economy,,Rock On Dude,,

Pull your head in Greg, if everyone liked everything then it would all be as boring as #$%*......
If you guys can't handle an OPINION then maybe you should be reading bed time stories.

Bad example AFT, you are not a young guy coming here for advice..... And without knowing anything about this forum your "educate" statement was arrogant....  There is also a big difference between insults and opinions mate. You guys are all for freedom of speech until you hear something you don't like.....

[Gearheadgreg]

AfT, Nice looking bikes man,,!! I read your statement and seen the negative comments from a Troll,,  Your wright WTF IS UP GUYS!!!! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!! (LETS SEE SOME PIC"S OF THIS TALENT THAT THESE CRITICS  OWN!)  Anyway...........I run a HSR 45 Fltatside on my Blown 6 GL1500 Honda, and with some conversations with Bill Bushing @ Magnacharger who engineered my Manifold for the Valk, Magnacharger  now offers a Upgrade Kit  to Delete the 40MM Kehin CV carb and we have found allmost 25HP more with the new 45 Mikuini and up to 10 mpg more in fuel economy,,Rock On Dude,,

Pull your head in Greg, if everyone liked everything then it would all be as boring as #$%*......
If you guys can't handle an OPINION then maybe you should be reading bed time stories.

Bad example AFT, you are not a young guy coming here for advice..... And without knowing anything about this forum your "educate" statement was arrogant....  There is also a big difference between insults and opinions mate. You guys are all for freedom of speech until you hear something you don't like.....

Hahahah........love that freedom of speech insert LOL! It's Saturday morning and i am one of the judges at the cruise night here on the island, and in about a hr been asked to judge another Car/Bike show today, In a world of Harley Davidson motorcycles here in the US and riding Honda's since 1966, TRUST ME i hear Opinions every phucking time i go to a Bike show's, Drag strip, Dyno shootout's or to the local Pub for a beer.......and the usual A$$HOLE will give me his OPINION of JAPCRAP in person, So trust me Bro this Cyber $hit is just the usual ranting.. Every Car Boat motorcycle i have modified and raced or stuck in the show Area has won a Award and or Been Front page of Sports or been put in a magazine, Oh.....the Boy's and the Honda insults? on the HD"s I will always wait for them and follow them While they look like they are dressed for Halloween......I wear a Jimmy Buffet Flower Hawaiian shirt and try to look like a Nerd!! and jump on the interstate behind them as they make all that Phucking Noise, i will stand up the front end for 150 ft and scare the $hit out of them...and......All of a sudden while i wait for them to catch up i get the Thumbs up....So as a X Southern Ca Boy, The old saying still goes....IF I WANT YOUR OPINION I WILL BEAT IT OUT OF YOU LOL!!!

[Retro Rocket]

TRUST ME i hear Opinions every phucking time i go to a Bike show's,

Of cause you do..? Whats your point..   In your view, every bike would win because every one would like all of them...
Some of you guys need to look up the definition of a forum. Post that bike we are sharing opinions on in the inspiration gallery or in the HIPO section and check out the responses you would get there..?  If you put yourself out there with out of the ordinary looking builds, then expect some criticism, no one is going to or be expected to like everything all of the time.
Good luck with your last quote dude......

[aft customs]

Gearheadgreg -There's always place at the dinner table for you.
Retro Rocket - I'm starting to think you can't read so I'll make it as simple as possible for you. The education statement was directed at 2 individuals that made false derogatory statements about the bike.I could care less if anyone likes it but will not let false  statements go unchallenged. You chimed in and started ranting & misinterpreting everything. Every time you post on here you validate everything I say because people clearly see what your up to.. For example - I never said I was a young guy on this site. Go back & read it again. You think insults & opinions are the same thing. I don't hide behind a fake name. We're a well recognised company with an email that's easily excessable. I'm getting emails from all over the world from people that have been watching this little conversation & they think a few of you are an embarrassment to this site. According to them you pull this #$%* on a regular basis. We are well known on the corporate side of the industry & that's where most  of it is coming from. They don't want their company names in a mudslinging contest. You're like the village idiot that everyone tolerates because you amuse everyone. You haven't said 1 positive thing yet. And 1 more thing - We aren't f.....n mates.

To those of you that want better pictures - we will have all the pics from the photo shoots in a few days & they will be posted on our website in about a week. I'm not putting them up here because I'm tired of bull#$%*. I didn't put the bike up here in the first place. I found out about it because 1 of our sponsors emailed me.

[Gearheadgreg]

TRUST ME i hear Opinions every phucking time i go to a Bike show's,

Of cause you do..? Whats your point..   In your view, every bike would win because every one would like all of them...
Some of you guys need to look up the definition of a forum. Post that bike we are sharing opinions on in the inspiration gallery or in the HIPO section and check out the responses you would get there..?  If you put yourself out there with out of the ordinary looking builds, then expect some criticism, no one is going to or be expected to like everything all of the time.
Good luck with your last quote dude......

You missed that last quote in my reply,, AFT did not Ask for your opinion Nor did he Po

TRUST ME i hear Opinions every phucking time i go to a Bike show's,

Of cause you do..? Whats your point..   In your view, every bike would win because every one would like all of them...
Some of you guys need to look up the definition of a forum. Post that bike we are sharing opinions on in the inspiration gallery or in the HIPO section and check out the responses you would get there..?  If you put yourself out there with out of the ordinary looking builds, then expect some criticism, no one is going to or be expected to like everything all of the time.
Good luck with your last quote dude......

I guess you didn't read my last quote,? last line.. AFT did not ask for your opinion or anybody here for the fact!! He already has been judged and has his prize,,Ricky-Racer posted the thread to inspire and congratulate Them for their accomplishment.....THAT's IT!!!  I would think that all of US SOHC owners would stand behind a fellow Member AFT and be proud that CB 750's took this award,,but to slam this crew here is just bizarre to a lot of us....Again YOU ALL drew First Blood and slammed this Member WTF....AGAIN I WILL TYPE REAL SLOOOOW! AFT DID NOT ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OR POST THIS TOPIC...i don't blame him for standing up for his crew Mate! Cheers   

[Retro Rocket]

Retro Rocket - I'm starting to think you can't read so I'll make it as simple as possible for you. The education statement was directed at 2 individuals that made false derogatory statements about the bike.I could care less if anyone likes it but will not let false  statements go unchallenged. You chimed in and started ranting & misinterpreting everything. Every time you post on here you validate everything I say because people clearly see what your up to.. For example - I never said I was a young guy on this site. Go back & read it again. You think insults & opinions are the same thing. I don't hide behind a fake name.

Before you go misquoting me mate maybe you should learn to read....You used the young guy as an example, i said it was a poor example , that doesn't happen here and is in no way similar to an established builder. I haven't insulted anything , just pointed out what i thought, you interpret that as an insult and continue to add arrogant remarks....
I haven't misrepresented anything, your interpretation is warped because you handle criticism or others opinions poorly.... Get over it, i don't like what you built regardless of how well it was built, you probably won't like mine either , i couldn't care less and won't then start sounding off about my abilities or history.

We're a well recognised company with an email that's easily excessable. I'm getting emails from all over the world from people that have been watching this little conversation & they think a few of you are an embarrassment to this site. According to them you pull this #$%* on a regular basis. We are well known on the corporate side of the industry & that's where most  of it is coming from. They don't want their company names in a mudslinging contest. You're like the village idiot that everyone tolerates because you amuse everyone. You haven't said 1 positive thing yet. And 1 more thing - We aren't f.....n mates..

Mate what a load of bull#$%* and once again, i couldn't care less. Yes there are guys here i don't see eye too, so what, you can't please everyone all the time, i also have some very good friends here that i never had previously and your insulting attitude is just sour grapes. I just love how you guys that don't get your own way resort to name calling and other childish crap just to push your over inflated ego's....  Piss poor effort for a "business man"....

And for Greg, i haven't slammed anyone, i just don't like the bike and have every right to express that, so have others....

You lot are just reading into this way to much, I don't like that bike, so what....

[MRieck]

  "you can't please everyone all the time"
 Despite your honest and best efforts I've found.
  Mike

[754]

 I think we should get on with the sharing of sohc builds, and sharing of knowledge..
 All, or a lot of.. the new guys that speak up on here, always seem to get Hazed...
 Lets not screw this up people, we did have a chance to meet the sohc helpergurlz... now I dont know if that will happen...

[scottly]

I think we should get on with the sharing of sohc builds, and sharing of knowledge..
 

1+!!

[BLUE71TURBO]

  I can never understand why any motorcyclist would put down another motorcyclist's bike.  Yea we all have different taste's in style and manufacture.  Being different is what motorcycling is all about to me.  As long as everyone has two wheels on the road and the wind in yer face that's all that really matters.
       Oh, and if you don't have a turbocharger on yer bike, well yer just not as cool as me.  But i'll still talk to ya!  LOL !!   

[KingCustomCycles.com]

  I can never understand why any motorcyclist would put down another motorcyclist's bike.  Yea we all have different taste's in style and manufacture.  Being different is what motorcycling is all about to me.  As long as everyone has two wheels on the road and the wind in yer face that's all that really matters.
       Oh, and if you don't have a turbocharger on yer bike, well yer just not as cool as me.  But i'll still talk to ya!  LOL !!   

I even "biker wave" guys and kids on mopeds.  It catches them off guard as most consider them not worthy of sharing the road.  You can find me on everything from a full dress Harley to a Honda Express and I always laugh at the arrogance of riders that won't wave when I am on my SOHC's.  Hey, if its in the wind, its cool.  Bicycles excluded, of course. :-)

[Terry in Australia]

Hey, what's wrong with bicycles mate? 

[KingCustomCycles.com]

I would wave at that, the rider has some kahunnas to get that much over 30 mph........