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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2011, 10:09:01 AM »
128 there is at least 135 at sea level.. plus that is REAL Documented speed, not speedo-speed.
 Good on you next year will be faster..
 The enemy at the salt is Altitude and Slippage.. most bikes after a certain point get slippage..in fact many add weight to help traction.. let me put it this way.. you can easily dig a hole or scrape a layer off the salt with your boot... a whole different game..
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2011, 10:47:59 AM »
Because I was running the Rickman frame I had to enter the special frame class. I also wanted to run the Rickman as designed so I had to run in the partial streamliner class (front fairing installed). I went to 61.5mm pistons that brought me to 748cc. I thought I should stay under 750cc to be competitive. APS AG 750 is the class designator. 153.772 is the class record I was in error on one of my posts. I think for this little 750 the biggest issue is not so much slippage on the salt but getting the gearing and jetting correct. My gearing was 18/40 and I think it was pretty good. I never really got to where the engine was designed to make it's max power. 8k-10k.
But there is next year! Oh yes, don't forget the velocity stacks next time.
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1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2011, 06:58:02 PM »
Great Stacks! Maybe the best yet! We were very careful to keep salt out of the intake............think about the air passing AWAY from the stacks at speed...........but you can't have induction or ram-air.  The special construction class allows for significant frame mods.........Please don't cut the Rickman!

Just to confirm........your now in the San Francisco area...........no longer in Minnesota?
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2011, 07:19:22 PM »
Hello Dennis. I am very happy for you and your team. You guys did an outstanding job!
I was very pleased that you took the initiative to stop in an talk about the forum and bikes in general at out camp in the pits. It was a lot of fun talking to you with Carl and myself. No worries on the Rickman frame being cut or altered in any way. That Bonneville bike has officially been retired and will stay in its original glory, AMA, BUB and JMR stickers never to be removed.  I am now in the process of looking into a custom built frame specifically for LSR with modifications in the engine design based on my engine postmortem. To tell you the honest truth I had more fun working on this bike and getting up at 3 am attempting to get the max of this little 748cc gal, then I have in a very long time! Even though many problems ensued I had the time of my life. MAN I love this LSR thing! I will see you next year on the salt. Oh yes, I still live in Minnesota I just have a CB750 K8 in San Francisco when I visit or work in the area. We are almost neighbors.
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1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
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1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2011, 06:02:03 PM »
Interesting that you went 128 on your first effort...........I think the fastest a 750 sohc has gone on the salt is 129.

If you are thinking of running your Rickman on the track, maybe a run around the Road America track in the AHRMA series would be fun?!

In the Modified frame category you have to keep the seat pan at or above the level of the rear rim. In the A (Spectial Construction) class you can sit anywhere. If you remove the lump from the left crankcase, the motor starts to get more slippery in the air..........if you build the frame to tilt the motor like a modern BMW, the tranny will have less oil drag and the whole bike could have a lower profile.  OK, enough from me with a low budget...........its your build.

I have a few friends in the Cities, and another near International Falls..........all have one or more CB750s.
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2011, 07:59:27 PM »
Steve Green ran 149 ish on a turbo 750 in the 70s...different class..
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2011, 02:59:55 AM »
I wish I went 128. The fastest I went was 124.023. It is a long way from the record of
 
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1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2011, 03:14:05 AM »
I wish I went 128. The fastest I went was 124.023. It is a long way from the record of
 
153.772 Rispoli, J Kawasaki 2010 APS-AG

I've just emailed a guy who went over 200mph on one. His name is Mel Nolan and a while back he tried to get onto the forum with not much luck. I'm not sure if he is 100% computer savay but saying that, neither am I. ;D
He might be no good on computers but he sure dose know how to make a SOHC4 sing. ;)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2011, 03:36:11 AM »
Just looked him up Sam. Wow you are right this guy can really make these sing indeed. Something to aspire to.
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1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
1973 ST90 (Free)
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1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2011, 03:54:48 AM »
I just received a mail from Mel, seems he can get on the forum but still can't figure how to post pictures.

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2011, 04:01:47 AM »
Scott, take a look at the pics of my bike in this link . http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=31154.225

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2011, 04:04:32 AM »
I would love to have a conversation with Mel! He is indeed a rock star. I never thought a CB750 ever broke the 200mph benchmark. WOW impressive to say the least.
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1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
1973 ST90 (Free)
1975 XL250 (Free)
1975 Rickman CR750
1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
1978 CB750 K8 (My San Francisco ride)
1984 VFR750 (Bought New)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2011, 04:07:55 AM »
Sam, The #250 bike is yours?
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1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
1973 ST90 (Free)
1975 XL250 (Free)
1975 Rickman CR750
1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
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1984 VFR750 (Bought New)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2011, 04:37:58 AM »
Sam, The #250 bike is yours?

No Scott, the black 175 is mine, I built the CR for a guy who WAS my mate.
It's the same bike as is in my avatar, different fairing and exhaust and rider.(me)
Fastest recorded speed with stock motor was 127mph in 4th gear.
Don't ask what happened to 5th.

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2011, 04:43:22 AM »
Impressive Sam! Just goes to show there is a lot of HP in the members on this forum. Now I have to ask... what happened to 5th? Wouldn't pull in 5th or you could not get there do to some mechanical issue? 127 in 4th Holy $hit!
1970 CB750 K0 (Bought in 73)
1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
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1975 XL250 (Free)
1975 Rickman CR750
1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
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1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
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1984 VFR750 (Bought New)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2011, 04:52:37 AM »
He forgot to put it in, he wondered why it was reving to 9500. >:(

Sam. ::)
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2011, 04:56:57 AM »
Laughing...sounds like something I would do.
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1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
1973 ST90 (Free)
1975 XL250 (Free)
1975 Rickman CR750
1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
1978 CB750 K8 (My San Francisco ride)
1984 VFR750 (Bought New)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2011, 05:00:31 AM »
Did you recognise anyone on any of the groupe pictures?

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2011, 05:12:41 AM »
Well I am guessing that Mike is the guy in blue and you are standing next to him on the left. Belen Wagner by looking at the post is the gal. You hang with some incredible folks. Who are the others?
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1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
1973 ST90 (Free)
1975 XL250 (Free)
1975 Rickman CR750
1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
1978 CB750 K8 (My San Francisco ride)
1984 VFR750 (Bought New)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2011, 05:15:47 AM »
That good looking youngest guy is Ben!

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2011, 06:19:12 AM »
Just looked him up Sam. Wow you are right this guy can really make these sing indeed. Something to aspire to.

Mel has just been in touch again and is allready a member, seems he is just a bit reluctant to post without being able to post his pictures.
If anyone can help him out, here is his profile from where you can PM him. His usere name is dodger.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?action=profile;u=23668

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2011, 06:29:44 AM »
Well I am guessing that Mike is the guy in blue and you are standing next to him on the left. Belen Wagner by looking at the post is the gal. You hang with some incredible folks. Who are the others?

You got Mike but were way off with Belan. ;D ;D ;D All the rest are family and friends.
The other guy with shaven head and jeans is one of my sponsors and owner of Cadishead MC.

Sam. ;)

PS, Belen couldn't make the party. ;D ;D ;D ;D nice lady though. ;)
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2011, 06:33:45 AM »
Sam, I just sent Dodger and e-mail in hopes it will help him post photos. Well on the group photo I just made a wild guess. Nice to have a sponsor. I need one of those!
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1972 XL250 (Bought new in 72)
1973 ST90 (Free)
1975 XL250 (Free)
1975 Rickman CR750
1982 CBX1000 Pro-link
1975 CB750 DRAG BIKE
1977 Custom Built CB750 Sturgis Bike (GL front end).
1977 CB750 F2 (Big Resto)
1977 CB750A (Auction Buy)
1978 CB750 K8 (My San Francisco ride)
1984 VFR750 (Bought New)

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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2011, 10:41:02 AM »
Well I am guessing that Mike is the guy in blue and you are standing next to him on the left. Belen Wagner by looking at the post is the gal. You hang with some incredible folks. Who are the others?

You got Mike but were way off with Belan. ;D ;D ;D All the rest are family and friends.
The other guy with shaven head and jeans is one of my sponsors and owner of Cadishead MC.

Sam. ;)


PS, Belen couldn't make the party. ;D ;D ;D ;D nice lady though. ;)
Well then, do tell us the name of that lovely lady with the high heels. ;)
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Re: New American Land Speed Record Holder.
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2011, 05:15:25 PM »
That's my wife Amy, the young Oriental lady is my daughter and the old lady is my Great grand Mother, anything else you would like to know. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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