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Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« on: September 13, 2011, 06:47:53 AM »
Amazing video.  http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/13/utah.motorcycle.crash/

No helmet either, and this guy lives and breathes today.  He used up all of his reincarnations though  :o
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 07:08:44 AM »
f'ing awesome that strangers will still help.

dress for the crash....
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 07:16:25 AM »
Honestly, that's pretty #$%*ing amazing.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 07:28:40 AM »
Wowm that was a hard one to watch, but it's nice to know people will still get involved!
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2011, 09:09:34 AM »
Ya beat me to it.

Did you see the petite girl. She seemed to be the one leading the cause.

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2011/09/13/von-motorcycle-crash.cnn
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 09:30:53 AM »
They must've assumed he was dead the way they let him lay there without checking vitals...
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 11:04:13 AM »
And the worthless, #$%*stacked suit that probably created the wreck doesn't lift a chubby finger to help...
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 11:18:01 AM »
idiots..have no one learned first help,,not even the polise man tok and tjekked puls or breth..rools say only stopp first help vhen the head are cut of body
alvays try to save live..even he smells and blood are all over...in europa all drivers have first help at driving school..its kriminal to leave him like that..in europa
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2011, 11:38:27 AM »
Quote from: Industrial-sized Dukiedook on September 13, 2011, 11:04:13 AM
And the worthless, #$%*stacked suit that probably created the wreck doesn't lift a chubby finger to help...

I noticed that too what a worthless POS! I hope he's shamed by this video but he'll probably sue the biker to have his suit dry cleaned.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2011, 11:57:32 AM »
I thought the suit might be a lawyer, not knowing which to represent. But he may have been the driver.

As to no first aid, as far as the civilians, probably no training. And the police, no excuse to touch the body till parameds confirm no neck damage. They touched more than they should have. I think. But vitals and first aid (first help), well I don't know that i would have known what to do, but tell people to leave him alone.

Everyone was scared, seemed to me, to get involved but the overwhelming humanity forced it on them.

Too many lawsuits.   :'(  Some states have some good hold harmless Good Samaritan laws.

Remarkable all things concidered.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2011, 01:46:57 PM »
Quote from: strynboen on September 13, 2011, 11:18:01 AM
idiots..have no one learned first help,,not even the polise man tok and tjekked puls or breth..rools say only stopp first help vhen the head are cut of body
alvays try to save live..even he smells and blood are all over...in europa all drivers have first help at driving school..its kriminal to leave him like that..in europa

I'll try to translate this. :)

"Idiots! Have they not learned first aid? Not even the police officer checked for a pulse or to see if he was breathing. The law says the only time you shouldn't try to help is if the victim has been decapitated. Always try to try to save a life. In Europ all drivers get taught first aid at driving school. It's criminal to leave him laying like that."

And I agree with you completely.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 02:53:47 PM »
At least half of the people there had a recent CPR class, the very least you can do in that type of a situation is check for breathing, pulse and administer CPR if you don't sense either.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 02:58:15 PM »
Quote from: Industrial-sized Dukiedook on September 13, 2011, 02:53:47 PM
At least half of the people there had a recent CPR class, the very least you can do in that type of a situation is check for breathing, pulse and administer CPR if you don't sense either.
How do you know that? Just curious.

Certainly if true they must have been in shock.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2011, 03:08:24 PM »
Most of the people helping to lift the car were construction workers on a road job- most everyone on those crews has up to date CPR training- part of the safety training mandated by OSHA, you never know when you might have to use it out there.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2011, 03:13:04 PM »
I saw that.  I too was kind of thinking, "Why are they just letting him lay there after they dragged him out?"  But again, that's me sitting in a chair at home and not on site...
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2011, 03:16:08 PM »
Thought it might be something like that.  :)
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 04:38:38 AM »
Well, some states have a Good Samaritan law, others don't.
So, unfortunately you always have to be careful....

That being said, I can't recall the number of times I have stopped to
help crash victims.

 Sometimes I still have nightmares of body parts flying
though the air, and the ugly sound they made
when they hit the side of the church,
then trying to calm the biker down and stop him from going
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2011, 05:08:56 AM »
Quote from: 74cb750 on September 14, 2011, 04:38:38 AM
Well, some states have a Good Samaritan law, others don't.
So, unfortunately you always have to be careful....

True. I took a look at Michigan's law and it only makes provisions for folks involved in health care in some fashion. No reference to laypeople so one could find themselves in some liability trouble.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 05:44:57 AM »
They did far more than they had to. I'm not going to sit here in my cushy chair and critique what they did.
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Re: Crowd lifts burning car off motorcyclist.
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 05:50:31 AM »
Here's Utah's Good Samaritan law.
http://www.cprinstructor.com/UT-GS.htm

Any good lawyer would drive a wedge in the "grossly negligent" space.

The motorcyclist is reported to be doing well in the hospital. As opposed to near certain death. So that's good.

PS: I read up further with examples and the law seems pretty well defended. I think first responders were on the scene and there was confusion as to who should do what next.

PPS: Final comment then I'm out. Seems first responder told the crowd to move back after freeing the victim, for their own safety.

Amazing thing, glad it ended well.
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