and yet I am patient with you and try not to be offended by your responses and to be honest I like both of you I just wish that LLoyd as knowledgeable as he is would try to be a little more patient before he gets upset with people that don't catch on as quick as he would like
And you Retro Rocket Please stop jumping all over LLoyd when he does get into a rant you have become too quick to jump all over him and I know from personal Pm's with you that your tone normally is patient and gentle it is unbecoming of you
The argument between the two of you Is detrimental to the Forum I love this place and realize that a possible spec that could have been screwed up in my head to begin with has devolved into a distasteful display of stupidity and since I am the idiot that seems to have started it I apologize to all concerned
I wrote this because I was disgusted with the thought of having to leave a group that I love rather than cause harm to it
I have no idea why you would be offended by my posts as there is nothing offensive in them at all. Lloyd chose to respond in a less than savory manner and i replied duly, there was no offense in my post or was it a rant, i was purveying my experience in this area, nothing more , nothing less. What argument, there is no argument nor is there a need for you to apologize at all. I will "jump all over" anyone that speaks to me in that manner, especially when it is blown out of all proportion and inflammatory , just to suit his agenda, that wasn't necessary at all, if you can read my post that so offended TT and find anything offensive then i'll eat my hat. And just as a matter of interest, i have received emails and PM's expressing dissent for the way Lloyd responded as well, he deserved my response. I am no angel but will not be spoken to like that anywhere, and i get sick and tired of people twisting my words to suit their cause.
I agree, Lloyd is a very intelligent and informative guy {doesn't make him smart though} , and i know as do many others that he doesn't like me but i couldn't care less and don't hold grudges as he obviously does, his problem, not mine. I also think, considering you know nothing of what has gone on previously and are obviously defending Lloyd that you cease giving me lopsided advice as it helps nothing at all.
What I am saying, is that to if you put oversize tires on the stock narrow rims, you have to use higher than normal pressures to artificially strengthen the sidewall which limits the squirm that arises due to lack of support from the increased sidewall angle.
I understood you completely TT, i may have not put that to paper well enough, but i know exactly what you meant. Considering the tyre's in question aren't of the same side wall profile i would still say that no extra pressure would be needed. Most if not all the larger tyres i have used had a smaller profile anyway, which negates what you have said. My intention was to point out {originally} that 68PSI was a stupid amount of air to have in a bike tyre, especially knowing that that number will increase by 10 psi plus at normal operating temps and probably more because the pressure stressed tyre will get even hotter adding to the rise in PSI, which is fact.
My knowledge of bike tyres and suspension come from years of working in bike shops, owning 30+ bikes, working in the pits on my mates race bikes and having friends that are experts in their chosen fields, all related specifically to bikes. I never had a car license until i turned 40 and used my bikes as my main form of transport for that entire time, I have had full blown superbikes registered for the road, {set up by a HRC mechanic on exchange from Japan} i shouldn't have to even say that as all what i have said can be easily backed up by a few simple searches. I don't need to read others posts on this subject as i have been doing this for a very long time.
Because those old tyres were generally taller on the sidewall compared to equivalent width metric tyres, the height/overhang ratio (rise/run) would be correspondingly greater,
Thanks for the link Lloyd, it clearly states what i have already said..... It is not as bad on modern tyres.
Running more appropriate tyre's would be my recommendation as over inflating to correct the perceived difference in rigidity creates its own set of problems.
My mechanics certification was for Tires, Brakes ,exhaust , and suspension which I got before I was even graduated from high school
I also got my master welders certificate before I graduated high school
I also could have graduated high school as a junior which is why I got the other certs I had nothing else left that I could do but take classes at the local college
My majors in college were mechanical and electrical engineering and my hobby was biotech engineering the study of bio electronic interfaces
But I am older now and over the course of my life I have had leukemia, skin cancer, a brain tumor, and suffer from a severe b vitamin deficiency that has caused me nerve damage in my extremities especially my hands (which is why I type like crap)
Danno, i have had an extremely hard life, lived on my own since i was 15 and have had a liver transplant after a severe bike accident, and over 40 sun cancers removed including melanoma, we all have problems but i would never use that as an excuse not to be civil. I will spell it out for you clearly mate, I never said anything offensive to you at all and if you feel that i have i couldn't care less. I am over all this over blown touchy feely , make something out of nothing bull #$%*. No go back and read TT's post reply to me and tell me that was ok......
If you are struggling to digest a difference of opinion then maybe you are on the wrong site....
