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Offline jbailey

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Mounting Tires
« on: May 07, 2006, 06:11:34 PM »
My 1975 550K needs new tires.  I checked the local shops for pricing and found that not only are they overpriced as compared to what I can get the tires for online they also charge $29 to mount and balance IF I buy the tires from them.

While surfing recently I found a review for this:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42927  which works with this:  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34542

There is a review here:  http://www.4strokes.com/reviews/harborfreight/mctirechanger/

We have five motorcycles between my son and I, so I think this would be a good investment.

My question is, what about balancing the tires after I get them on the rims?  What advice can you give me?
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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2006, 07:52:16 PM »
Changing your own tyres isn't difficult, you don't even need the tyre changer from Harbour Freight, just the right technique and some tyre irons. The wheels have what is known as drop centre (where the spoke heads are. )  First make sure tyre is loose on rim, no air and bead not stuck anywhere. Start with levers at the valve, press tyre into wheel well opposite ( drop centre) and start persuading tyre it really would like to live somewhere else. Take small 'bites' and work around rim. you may pop a tube or two while practicing, but its still way cheaper than the shop. Put a small amout of air in tube when re-fitting, only enough to hold shape to make sure it doesnt get trapped under bead. fit nut but dont tighten it down, press valve into tyre for extra clearance. ( only up to nut) Start at valve, finish at valve
As for balancing, you only need some way to hold wheel and find heavy spot (which will be at the bottom ;D) Old swing arm works, either in a vice or couple of cross pieces welded on to hold it upright. take brake plate off rear wheel and take out the spacers when you do front so there is less drak from seals etc. Unless tyre shop does correct dynamic balancing ( difficult with the narrow rims we use) its no different to static balance, just a bit quicker with machine)
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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2006, 08:16:19 PM »
Well, if I had 5 bikes and the room for this tire changer, I'd get one.
Balancing a bike tire is pretty easy like jbailey suggests it can be done on anything the axle will mount in. There is also a balancing system that hangs the tire flat to the ground with a spirit level attached, you add weight where needed until it reads level. I've seen this at racetrack pits, can't help with brand but it's pretty simple and can't cost much.

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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2006, 09:01:01 PM »
jbailey~  (and others)~

yes, what has been suggested is great!  but, you can also try to swing a deal... does the installer know you have 5 bikes?!  he might be willing to cut you a deal, knowing that if he does, he'll have much return business!

also, when he does cut his prices... you'll know that he really does want your business for your business rather than just to make a buck.

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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2006, 10:46:12 PM »
 I tend to look at things as how long do I have to work to get what I want? :-\ Hours, days, weeks? ??? How much am I paid compared to what I'm paying. ::)
When it comes to working on bikesĀ  I dont know my limits, 8) along with several other areas I didnt know I couldnt do ( but now I know I can do it cheaper and get the satisfaction of doing it myself) ;D ;D I dont think I'm trying brain surgery any time soon ;D ;D
 I guess when you get to a certain level you can make more money doing what you do rather than doing other things.
Thats probably why there are so many lawn services, and fast food places out there.
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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2006, 06:20:56 AM »
Crazy makes a good point. You will find the old tire are hard to get off since they have hardened. I just cut them off and be done with it. the new tires are softer, with a bit of soapy water they slide on fairly easily. Just take your time and don't pinch the tubes. With five bikes at some point the installation fee will equal the price of a tire, so you may wind up with one essentially free.
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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 02:13:16 PM »
Thanks for the advice.  I think I am going to skip the machine and try doing it myself with tire irons.  I found several sites on the internet that have easy to follow pictures.  It doesn't look like rocket science, and it's worth trying.
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Re: Mounting Tires
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2006, 02:46:06 PM »
It is doable. My biggest problem was getting my hands in under the tire to get the valve stem into the hole in the rim before mounting the second bead. After many frustrating attempts I finally figured out a way. Had I done it right off the bat this way, my recollections of the ordeal might not be as negative.
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