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Offline crazypj

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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2006, 01:09:18 AM »
Moving from Britain to Florida , all I can say is in this state the 'driving test' is a total joke. I'm just really suprised there are not more accidents May as well give licences away with a big mac as its seen as an act of defiance to drive without a licence (particularly motorcycles). There are a lot of police but even more drivers (hell even the cops ignore traffic regulations when the doughnut shop is closing)  The woman who killed her own daugter is blaming BMW because she couldnt take a 35mph bend at 65 and hit a tree  (the cruise controll accidentally came on, yeah, right, I know where it happened and I've driven there, 65mph would be Ok if you know how to turn the wheel)
Just my rant, as a couple of weeks ago I stopped for a red light ( red apout 100 yds before I got there) and the #$%* in the 20,000lbs truck decided to run it, I was really lucky (or I wouldnt be typing this) and today we had a 75min travel time (usually about 4mins) due to a jackknifed 18 wheeler. Dont these people know its liable to get slippery when wet?
Rant over
Sorry about your car, glad your OK
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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2006, 02:18:02 AM »
Glad you are OK Richard, now just 8 lives left...  ;)


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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2006, 07:51:47 AM »
yeah, I constantly feel like a sitting duck while stopped at a traffic light. I don't quit checking my mirrors and looking over my shoulder until there's at least a couple cars behind me and it feels a little safer.

maybe the DMV's across this golden land should make everyone with a drivers license take a 2 hour class that goes over super hardcore video footage of accidents, make it as gorey as possible, just so people get a F(*&G clue how much damage they could possibly do for not paying attention, or chatting on their phone while driving

or make part of your drivers exam driving a go cart down the interstate in heavy traffic.

its bull#$%* how people can cause such dramatic changes in other peoples lives and not take the least amount of responsibility for it.

I think that I would be safe to assume that most of the people who ride bikes pay enough attention when they do get behind the wheel that they do not CAUSE wrecks due to inattentiveness



richard, glad to hear you are ok. and I'm sorry to hear about your car, it obviously meant a lot to you

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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2006, 09:05:22 AM »
yea,drivers licensing over here is a joke.
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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2006, 12:01:14 PM »
Heres a got one over on the insurance company story for you.

I had a 67 VW Beetle that the distributor fried and was sitting on the side of the road. An 89 mustang was going the opposite direction on the other side of the median doing about 110 MPH, (late for class at the college nearby), lost control, hit the median, flew into the air, landed on my bug, went through two fences and hit a house. The entire front end was crushed flat, the front ball joints snapped, folded the frame into a V, and popped the rear window out which flew about 30 yards into a bush and came out intact. The drivers seat ended up about an inch from the steering wheel.

All I can say is thank my lucky stars I wasn't in it at the time. I had to sit down to keep from fainting.

After all was said and done, the insurance company gave a almost $1600.00 for it. What I didn't tell them was that just a few months earlier I paid a co-worker $200.00 for it and put maybe another hundred into it, so I made out pretty good I think.

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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2006, 12:09:26 PM »
yea,we get over every now and then
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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2006, 12:10:40 PM »
I am sorry about the 'stang, but I am glad you are OK.  Could have been a lot worse.

Back in 1981, I was sitting at a stop light in the left hand wheel track of the middle lane of a three lane street.  I had almost coasted to a stop coming to the intersection since the light had went to yellow so far back.  As I sat there on my Goldwing, I heard air horns blaring.  Before I could react, a semi went shooting by on my right, just inches away.  The small car in the right lane was not as lucky, since the truck and trailer clipped her left rear fender.  The trucker, whom I had passed a little earlier, was obviously not paying attention to the lights and was just driving along.  I was glad he chose to clip the car and not me.  I watch my mirrors now, in everything I drive, not just the bike.
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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2006, 12:45:09 PM »
You are 1 lucky guy.

Years ago a motorcyclist stopped in the right lane for a red light.  A large 18 wheeler stopped very close behind him and the driver must not have been paying attention.  The light changed and the trucker pressed down on the gas thinking that the biker had turned on the red light.  He couldn't see the motorcycle he was driving over because he was too close to him when he stopped.  The biker managed to jump and run around so that the truck driver saw him and stopped.  So watch them all if they're movin' or standing still.

Good luck on the new ride.

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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2006, 10:49:13 AM »
Someone better at math can do the percentage, but it loks like close to 15% who read this have had close calls. Maybe we should join organisations in respective countries to get some lobbying done for more driver training and also enforcing the laws when there are blatant infiringements?
Got this from another forum, open letter, its really long but try reading all of it and see how much you agree with.
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The author of the letter, Tom Macom tried to get the newspapers to publish this, but no luck. The magazine gave permission to copy this letter and asked that all bikers pass this along and try to get this letter out some way! Please feel free to copy and post it and/or try to get it published in your area's newpaper. Great letter, and we can all relate to this letter!


Dear fellow motorists,

I wonder if you realized how close you came to injuring or killing me today. You seemed completely unaware that you began to move into my lane when only half of your car had passed me. If I had glanced at my mirror at that second, I probably wouldn't have been able to brake fast enough to keep you from hitting my front tire and throwing me off my motorcycle. I apologize for slapping your window and lecturing you. It probably seemed to you that some crazy biker was trying to terrorize you. I'm sure you're a nice lady and wouldn't want to hurt anybody, but your inattention nearly caused a collision that would have been a mere fender bender for your Mercedes Benz, but could have caused me to be killed, and that made me angry.

Perhaps you are not completely to blame. As cars get smoother, more comfortable, and easier to drive, as they get quieter inside and come equipped with high-power, nine-speaker, surround-sound stereos, as more distractions like cell phones and laptop computers become available for you to use while driving, it's easy to forget that you are hurling two tons of steel and plastic down the road. Inside that nice new car of yours, you have air bags, seat belts and anti-lock brakes to keep you safe, and since you surely have at least the minimum required insurance, a collision with a 600 pound motorcycle just isn't very threatening to you, but it is life threatening to me.

I ride a motorcycle nearly everyday, year round, because I love the feeling of being in the open air, feeling the temperature changes and the bugs splatter on me, and of course the sunshine and wind on my face. I love the feel of the leaning to steer and accelerating out of a curve. I love it so much that I not only ride to work everyday, I ride for fun on weekends. My idea of a fun vacation is riding my motorcycle to a rally in Arizona. I'm very aware of the dangers and I have decided that, to me, the risk is an accptable trade off.

And you must understand that regardless of how you feel about motorcycles, they are legal vehicles and are permitted to use the roadways. Regardless of your feeling about "bikers" I am a human being and deserve the same consideration that you wish to recieive from others. And if you accidentally kill me because you weren't paying close enough attention or didn't see me, you will have to live with the fact that caused another human being to die. I can't believe you would want that to happen, so let me try to help you understand what I must do to minimize the danger of riding and how you can help me stay out from under your wheels and not come crashing through your windshield to die in your front seat.

First, you have to understand that the natural at-rest position of a motorcycle is on it's side. In order to keep it upright, I have to balance it. When I get it up to 35 mph or so, natural forces help me to keep it upright, that is as long as the surface I'm riding on remains pretty consistent. But on patched roadways, or worse yet that under construction, there are lots of hazards that can upset that natural balance. Raised surfaces such as the edge of a patch that you car bumps over easily can drop a motorcycle in a second if not crossed over properly. Loose surface gravel and curves that are sloped in the wrong direction all pose potential hazards if I don't ride carefully and give myself enough space to react. I swear sometimes it seems like the highway department is trying to do me in. But I hope that they, like you, just don't understand that the dynamics of a motorcycle is different from that of four-wheeled vehicle. With practice and concentration, I've learned how to keep the shiny side of the motorcycle facing up, as long as you grant me a few courtesies.

If I leave slightly more than a car length between me and the vehicle I'm following, it's so I have enough time to react to the piece of truck tire that's lying in the roadway. It's not an invitation for you to slip into the space while you're trying to leapfrog through heavy traffic. That forces me to drop back and open another gap that someone else will leapfrog into. And since I don't tailgate you, extend the same courtesy to me. If you need to look down to change the temperature control on your climate control, you need to have enought time to avoid hitting me if traffic suddenly slows.

When you see a small gap in the middle of a group of motorycles, don't maneuver quickly into the gap. It's common for motorcycles to travel in groups, it's part of the fun. Needlessly splitting up the group is rude and dangerous.

These are common courtesies and safe driving practices for all vehicles and are particularly important to me as a motorcyclist. But in order for you to extend me these courtesies you have to be aware of my presence. I know that a motorcycle can easily hide in a blind spot so when I ride behind you in an adjacent lane, I always try to see your face in the rear view mirror. That means that you can see me if you scan your mirror regularly as they teach in any safe-driving class. I always ride with my headlamp on to make me more visible. My last line of defense is a rather loud exhaust system. You may find it annoying, but if it makes you notice that I'm traveling in a blind spot beside you, I consider it a safety device. I try not to annoy my neighbors with the noise, but I use it on the highway.

Some motorcyclists ride aggressively and faster than the flow of traffic. Passing other vehicles can be safer than being passed by them in some situations. Maybe the biker that roars past you is just a sociopathic punk, or maybe he's trying to obseve how you're driving and control the time that you are actually close enough to hit him. In either case, what can you gain by getting mad and returning the the aggression?

Don't take offense if I ride between lanes and move to the front of a long line of stopped cars, especially on hot days. Without air moving over it , the air-cooled engine on my motorcycle will overheat and be damaged. Lane splitting is tricky and dangerous and I only do it when necessary but it is permitted by law in this state Don't take it personally.

Notice me, but please don't stare at me as you drive beside me. Remember that you tend to steer in the direction that you are looking. Let me have my lane.

You and I can share the road safely as long as you give your driving the attention it deserves and give me the same consideration that you would want from other drivers. In return, I'll try not to vent my anger at you when another, less-considerate drivers does something that endangers me. And when we get to where we're going I can take a smaller parking spot designated for motorcycles and leave the big space for your luxury automobile.

Sincerely,
A motorcyclist 
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Re: Good thing I wasn't on my bike ...
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2006, 01:16:54 PM »
That is about the best awareness letter I have ever read. Straight to point, non-attacking and clear. I am working on getting this in our local paper here. I trunicated the lane split paragraph as lane split is illegal in our state. Otherwise it will appear as written. Let's see if I can use some of my old news connections to get it into the news both in print and TV.