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Offline turboguzzi

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hard cafe
« on: October 04, 2011, 01:31:53 PM »
monoshocks and USD's on vintage stuff is not my cup of tea, but i know some of you will go gaga over this

enjoy it while it lasts

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 01:56:30 PM »
Is it still a CB750 when the only original part is the engine?
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
Is it still a CB750 when the only original part is the engine?

I'll answer your question with another question:

Is it still a CB750 when the entire bike is original except for the engine? 


Well, okay.  Maybe not "answer", but at least add to the food-for-thought...

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011, 02:05:55 PM »
Hmmm, that builder had the same tank interference issue that I had.  I guess dents are the new "pink" when it comes to front end swaps.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 02:25:22 PM »
i feel the same way about usd forks and monoshocks, but i'm always interested in seeing people come up with creative solutions, that air intake being one. (for the record, i think it's ugly as sin) any more photos available?
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2011, 02:48:26 PM »
Yeah, it would be better if he routed the intake to under the seat unless the battery is already there.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 02:59:56 PM »
Yeah, it would be better if he routed the intake to under the seat unless the battery is already there.

I think the monoshock takes up all that space. It does give me some ideas though.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 03:08:33 PM »
Air filter under the seat (dang that thing would give your hemorrhoids fits) without a rear fender?  Don't think the K&N would like all the road spray.  Of course I guess you could always leave it in the garage on cloudy days and avoid dusty roads.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 03:22:58 PM »
technically interesting, but not asthetically pleasing to me.
It also looks like it would scrape badly on agressive right turns.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »
The bike belongs to SOHC member: shaunzo

You can see it in the Project Shop forum.
 
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2011, 06:19:33 PM »
That thing is ugly as #$%*

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 06:24:18 AM »
Not my cup o tea but it is his bike and if he likes it good for him. Sure won't see another like it at the local bike night.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 08:16:19 AM »
The fad officially ends when Harley reissues a cafe model.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 08:50:08 AM »
That thing is ugly as #$%*

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 09:05:46 AM »
I'm not sure I like the look, I mean each to his own sort of thing, but man I really admire the work he's done on this.  8)

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 10:01:03 AM »
looks comfy.  When will this so called "cafe" thing end?  Wait, I need to sell 3 more before the window closes on this fad.............

I didn't know customization could ever end.  When did bobbers end?  When did choppers end?  Guys like us will be "hot roding" stuff for as long as we feel the want need and desire to tinker with something and make it out own.  That may be never.

I'll admit, the word "cafe" is getting thrown around a awful lot these days.  It's being used to describe anything with a bumstop seat and low bars.  Add to that the wonderful world of TV and voila, you have a big fat fad.  Not sure how much of the modern movement reflects that of the English blokes of the 59 club, but cafe racing has hung in there for quite a few years.

The way I see it, we can get pretty wrapped up in labels, and there are a lot of them out there.  I tell people that I'm building a motorcycle, and leave it at that.  Most of them have no idea what's a cafe, a bobber, a tracker, a chopper, a streetfighter, a stock restoration, a restomod, a blah blah blah.  I've said it, and I've heard it said many many times on this forum, build what you like.  Build what's in your heart.


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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 10:05:36 AM »
The fad officially ends when Harley reissues a cafe model.

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 06:40:32 PM »
looks comfy.  When will this so called "cafe" thing end?  Wait, I need to sell 3 more before the window closes on this fad.............

Hopefully soon. Just because the fad fades doesn't mean the bike will go away. It happens with everything. I've been a fan of old school hot rods my whole life, but the term "rat rod" really bastardized things for a while. I love rat rods when proper effort is put into them, but I hate the people who use it as an excuse to take some POS rust bucket to car shows. Same goes cafes. I love cafes, but hipsters are all over them right now. Hipsters will pass, and those of us who actually appreciate the bikes will have them for ourselves. This is all a vicious cycle. Remember when your doctor went out and got a $30,000 chopper because of some dude with a tv show? Yeah...

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 07:43:53 PM »
Man, some of you guys make me laugh....  "cafe fad"  respect the builders vision...  It is easy to sit behind the keyboard and be a critic of someone elses build. 

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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 08:40:45 PM »
The fad officially ends when Harley reissues a cafe model.

You mean the '77 XLCR? Nice bike; I've ridden one. 8)
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 09:10:09 PM »
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 01:01:20 AM »
Man, some of you guys make me laugh....  "cafe fad"  respect the builders vision...  It is easy to sit behind the keyboard and be a critic of someone elses build.


 while i understand what you are saying but i don't necessarily think its right. Looks are subjective, beauty is in the eye of the beholder {or beer holder ;D} yada yada,   i like what i like, not always what everyone else likes and there is nothing wrong with that at all.
I think its not that attractive as well and i will definitely post pics of mine when its done.... ;)  Whilst i don't hate cafe's most of the ones i have seen are piles of crap built by guys that have little understanding of what actually makes a bike perform and handle well....
Remember i said "most" there are some real gems as well. Call a spade a spade.
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 01:42:43 AM »
so changing all this stuff does it even handle and ride good?
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Re: hard cafe
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 01:55:12 AM »
Probably not....
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2011, 04:03:30 AM »
so changing all this stuff does it even handle and ride good?

I suggest you ask the person who rides it.  Since it's his bike, and he is a rather seasoned rider, I'm sure he knows better than anyone else.   Ask shaunzo