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Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« on: October 05, 2011, 12:59:44 PM »
I've had my running 400f for just over a month now, and still love riding it. That being said, I've used it primarily for commuting, and a few blasts through the city I live in.

I still haven't had a chance to actually take it out on the highway and take it for a reasonably long ride....Due to the size of them, are they difficult to ride on the highway? I'd like to take a road trip for a couple days next spring, and since my 750 still won't be done, all I'll have is my 400!
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Re: Long distance riding with a baby SOHC4
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 01:02:24 PM »
How old is the rider?
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Re: Long distance riding with a baby SOHC4
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 01:03:36 PM »
How old is the rider?

Ha!  Were you thinking what I was when I read that title?!  Riding a SOHC4 with a baby?  :o

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Re: Long distance riding with a baby SOHC4
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 01:04:54 PM »
Good question TT...

I'm 27. Since I've only ridden the bike short distances, I haven't had any issues with the riding position at all...and I haven't been blown around by any wind because I've mostly stayed on city roads.
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 01:06:31 PM »
How old is the rider?

Ha!  Were you thinking what I was when I read that title?!  Riding a SOHC4 with a baby?  :o

HA! I missed that...changed it to "little SOHC4"...

I'm thinking TT meant that the riding position could get uncomfortable if you're not in the greatest of shape anymore!
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 01:37:57 PM »
At 27, the rider should still be pretty resilient.  Smaller bikes take more effort, concentration, and alertness for long distances and fatigue is a factor for safety.  The machine doesn't much care.  If in good condition, it will far outlast you.  Crosswinds blow it sideways and you have to keep it in your lane.  It's smaller, so other drivers are even LESS likely to see you, so you have to constantly dodge them.  Even noise is a factor for fatigue.  And a fatigued driver is more prone to lapses in attention and judgment.
A young rider should be able to cope.  I did. I drove all over California state with a 305 Honda. Never flinched.  That would have been miserable, even painful at age 40+.

I found the CB400F rather skittish, which is why I sold it rather quickly after restoring it.  Some like the "flickability", and that has it's place.  Long distance driving is certainly easier with a bike that doesn't change lanes in half a blink of an eye, like if you happen to zone out for an instant to relax a bit.  Anyone who has driven long distances knows that the boredom can decrease your desire to "stay on top" of a skittish bike.  Bigger bikes allow one to approach a relaxing state (for a time) while riding, which leaves you with some energy to do something at your destination, rather than find a bed and sleep off the constant tension; recharge yourself.

That's my view, anyway.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 02:58:57 PM »
Like TT I rode a 305 Superhawk all over the East Coast in the late 60's and early 70's. Later I rode my 550 coast to coast twice. It is tiring as hell, but it is definitely doable at your age- go for it. Now that I'm an old fart I like a heavier bike with a windshield and fairing for the long haul, since it definitely is easier on my old bones. Just try shifting riding positions frequently to change the load and stress on your buut, arms, hands, and back. Fortunately these bikes can't go more than a couple of hours at hiway speeds before needing gas, so breaks out of the saddle are a given.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 03:18:55 PM »
I've had my running 400f for just over a month now, and still love riding it. That being said, I've used it primarily for commuting, and a few blasts through the city I live in.

I still haven't had a chance to actually take it out on the highway and take it for a reasonably long ride....Due to the size of them, are they difficult to ride on the highway? I'd like to take a road trip for a couple days next spring, and since my 750 still won't be done, all I'll have is my 400!

Check out Camelman's adventures on a 350/4, maybe "size" is in the mind.
 
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2011, 03:47:12 PM »
Had a 400-4 when I was 14.  Rode is all over SoCal.  It was fine but then I was 14 also.  But I have also been spoiled to big motors with too much plastic.  Going back to the 400-4 would be tough but still see it quite doable.
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2011, 03:47:13 PM »
A fellow tried to buy my CB175 last year and wanted to fly up from the southern tip of South America to ride it home.  I live in Indiana.  I asked about this adventure of his and if he had thought it through.  He said he rode a CB125 across the continent from West to East so he saw no problem with a "bigger" bike making the longer trip South.  CB400 on the highway?  Kid, you aren't scratching the surface of what has been done on these little Honda's.  :-)

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 03:49:39 PM »
The age thing is definitely a big factor.  At 27 I wouldn't have blinked at taking my 400F on a road trip.  At 36, there's no way I'd do it unless I had to.  I'm still in good shape, but the back is far less forgiving and the joints and muscles aren't as resilient after being held in position for long periods of time.  If you're in decent shape for 27, then do it. 

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 03:58:44 PM »
Yer still a pup at 36 Gordon.  :)
I don't have a motorcycle, sold it ('85 Yamaha Venture Royale).  Haven't had a CB750 for over 40 years.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 04:14:09 PM »
Yer still a pup at 36 Gordon.  :)

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 06:29:11 PM »
I've kind of wondered the same thing while looking at bikes on the smaller side. I pretty much always assume anything is possible if you want to try. Assuming I can get my bike sorted out (or maybe just get a different one), I'm planning on riding from Indiana to Texas on my 550 next spring/summer. I basically told myself it is going to be hell, but I'll have a story. I can only speak for the 550, but I can say it will keep you on your toes at interstate speed. Wind can get nuts. Having grown up on dirt bikes and the like, I personally prefer that type of riding.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 06:50:29 PM »
I think TT has given you some good advice. On Interstates you will get bounced around a bit. Your passing power will be fairly low. I would suggest you wear earplugs which is something you would do on big or small bikes.

You will be more tired than on a bigger bike, so take more breaks. I used to take long trips on a 250 Ducati when I was 18. Trucks would bang me around unless I got really close, they they pulled me along.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 07:00:06 PM »
Go for it! Stay off the interstate highways as much as possible, no fun to ride a bike on 'em (except for the occasional high speed run!)
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Re: Long distance riding with a baby SOHC4
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 07:13:15 PM »
Good question TT...

I'm 27. Since I've only ridden the bike short distances, I haven't had any issues with the riding position at all...and I haven't been blown around by any wind because I've mostly stayed on city roads.

I'm 32 and like to do 2000 mile trips on the bike in my avatar. I have a friend with a 400-4  and she rides to Montana, California etc, every year from Vancouver BC. You'll have a great time, stay off the interstates. Boring!

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 07:32:45 PM »
Fabulous. Now I just need new shocks, fork seals, and tires and I'm good to go. Oh yeah, I'll have to get through winter too!

I really wanted to get out for a short trip this summer, but unfortunately I just didn't have the time. My extra week of holidays next year will come in useful.
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 07:41:36 PM »
I would like the chance to ride a 400, the smallest i have ridden is a 550, I have 2 of those. 

I ride my 1976 550F a couple days a week most weeks. It is not uncommon for me to ride 400-500 miles a day once a month or so.
I seldom ever get on the interstate unless I really need to be somewhere ASAP, the RPM's  are to high, the sound and vibration start to wear on a guy after a few hours, and to me, it gets pretty unnerving riding on a heavily congested  highway surrounded by #$%* that can kill you in the ring of a cell phone.

I love too take off and ride secondary highways and back roads, they will take you anywhere you want to go and show you a better time, they just won't get you there as fast. most of the time i'm not really going anywhere anyway ;D

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 07:49:17 PM »
I have to agree with the others. Avoid interstates when you can. The only reason I take my bike on the interstate is because I live about 2.5 miles from I-70 and only have to take it about 4 miles "into town". Otherwise, I'm all for the back roads and the offbeat adventures that tend to come along with them.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 09:43:27 PM »
I'm going to add that by 1970's standards, the 550 is NOT a little bike.  It is not very skittish at all with the proper tires on it.  It is far better for touring than the 400F, imo.  The only thing the 750 has on it for touring is throttle response without downshifting.
  A 550 with a fairing becomes a long distance bike for one up.  It has just enough weight and neutral handling to make an all day rider.  I got my 750's for two up riding.  And, I want the extra power when hauling extra weight.
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 07:23:19 AM »
Id say get a cheap fairing for it and give her a go.  Even a heavier bike will get squirrely in a heavy cross wind or when meeting big trucks (my 750 not so much, but my old 650 sure did).  If you can find a cheap used fairing on cl or ebay it would probably make the ride much more enjoyable on your little 4
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 10:48:45 AM »
i've always wondered about fairings in cross winds - does that make them worse? i've got a windjammer 3 i'm considering putting on my 750k, but dealing with buffeting from trucks has held me back.

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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 12:58:00 PM »
Don't avoid anything! A 400F is a perfect bike for any type of road. I remember me and my girl went on a 10000 km holiday trip through France, Italy and Greece. She on a 350Four. We had all kinds of roads (routes nationales in France, autostradi in Italy, mulepaths in Greece and Autobahns in Germany. Never heard any complaints about her bike being to light. Nonsense.
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Re: Long distance riding with a little SOHC4
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2011, 02:50:40 PM »
Don't avoid anything! A 400F is a perfect bike for any type of road. I remember me and my girl went on a 10000 km holiday trip through France, Italy and Greece. She on a 350Four. We had all kinds of roads (routes nationales in France, autostradi in Italy, mulepaths in Greece and Autobahns in Germany. Never heard any complaints about her bike being to light. Nonsense.

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As others have stated, minimizing the time on superslabs maximizes the fun.  My two cents is that a small windscreen helps reduce fatigue with the upright riding position, crosswinds don't bother it much, so tour away on your 400.
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