Topic: How much is a "sandcast" engine worth? !!!UPDATE!!! dog-pile begins on pg 12.

[Raef]

king

I mean really, buying cloths at a rummage sale so you can donate them to goodwill just to get a retail value tax deduction? that is the questionable I was referring too , BTW what would Jesus have say about that?

to claim to be honest and have integrity simply because you don't break any laws is bull#$%*

[lrutt]

I keep clicking on this thread just to see if indeed they are sandcast engines and all I ever see is a bunch of bull#$%* being slung around. Take it somewhere else.

Hopefully the PO will come back and let us know.

[78whiteorbs]

Keep questioning my integrity and I will have to bring up how Jesus has done all this for me and no one wants to go there...........

I dont question your integrity but I would love to know actually-  Seems that you are being a good steward of your money/property/possesions.   

FYI    The Parable of the Talents:

It is a simple story that our Lord tells here. A man who is preparing to leave on a journey entrusts his possessions to his servants. He distributes his wealth among three servants, apportioned to them on the basis of their abilities. To the first he entrusted five talents, to the second two talents, and to the third one talent. The first two servants quickly272 set to work with their master’s money. The third servant did not invest his master’s money at all; he dug a hole in the ground and buried his master’s money. When the master returned, the first two eagerly met their master, apparently delighted in the opportunity to multiply their master’s money.273 Both were commended as “good and faithful servants”; both were rewarded with increased responsibilities in their master’s service; both were invited to share in their master’s joy.

The master’s dealings with the third servant is a very different matter. This servant came to his master with only the talent his master had originally entrusted to him. He did not increase his master’s money at all. In fact, if this were to take place today, that money would likely be worth less, due to inflation. This servant offered a feeble excuse for his conduct. He told his master that he was a harsh and cruel man, a man who was demanding, and who expected gain where he had not labored. He contended that this is why he was afraid to take a risk with any kind of investment. And so he simply hid the money, and now he returned it, without any gain. The master rebuked this slave for being evil and lazy. He took his talent from him, gave it to the one who earned ten, and cast this fellow into outer darkness, where there was weeping and gnashing of teeth.

matt 25:13-30

[scottly]

I keep clicking on this thread just to see if indeed they are sandcast engines and all I ever see is a bunch of bull#$%* being slung around. Take it somewhere else.

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[ekpent]

I keep clicking on this thread just to see if indeed they are sandcast engines and all I ever see is a bunch of bull#$%* being slung around. Take it somewhere else.

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  +2-Knew this was going to get Ugly and if religion gets involved it will get worse. What next the race card

[754]

Sounds like he wont be able to get a hold of the guy for a while anyway, so we wil have to just wait..

[Toxic]

I hope the  OP starts a new thread as this one is in the crapper.

[mrjack55]

I hope the  OP starts a new thread as this one is in the crapper.

What? Come on...really?
 I just made some popcorn and grabbed a couple of PBRs.  This is getting good! 

But I to would like to know how excerpt is making out with the deal.  You still out there excerpt?

[excerpt]

I hope the  OP starts a new thread as this one is in the crapper.

What? Come on...really?
 I just made some popcorn and grabbed a couple of PBRs.  This is getting good! 

But I to would like to know how excerpt is making out with the deal.  You still out there excerpt?

Yep. Still here. Watching this thread go to #$%*. :/
Here's hoping that everything works out to be exactly like the guy told me it was.
I don't know when I'll get to meet up with him. Might be a few days. Could be much longer, but WE WILL have closure on this.
Hopefully with a fantastic outcome!

[Retro Rocket]

754, your confusing retail vs. what I would pay.  I pay as little as I can, and sell for as much as I can.  That is the "American way" for what thats worth anymore.  BTW, just heated another head to remove valve guides and thought I would try your suggestion.  400F was not enough.  500F and they released cleanly.  I suspect you have no idea what you are talking about here.

You are a self important idiot King, reading your last few posts out loud to my wife caused a stir here, you are so full of #$%* its laughable.
And every time you get backed into a corner you come out with your religious bull#$%*. You are so good at making a fool of yourself you've even got yourself bluffed.....Pathetic chest beating crap.....  And your last comment to Frank is laughable, he would have forgotten more about these bikes than you would even know......fool.
Why don't you just piss off and stop polluting this poor guys thread, he hasn't even bought the things yet.

Sorry for the hijack excerpt, i only checked in because of some PM's I received referring to Kings poor form.....

[crazypj]

754,   BTW, just heated another head to remove valve guides and thought I would try your suggestion.  400F was not enough.  500F and they released cleanly.  I suspect you have no idea what you are talking about here.

 I think he does.
 At 500f, the seats can either fall out or 'move'.
 You'll know when you re -cut the seats (you do re-cut seats and not just make the valve fit the hole?)
You know why Harley press valve guides out cold?
You do now (although the newer ones seem pretty OK to around 350f)
 Early Evo motor seats could fall out during 'normal running'

 Oh, and don't even try to use religion as a crutch, your using people when you buy cheap sell dear, NOT a GOOD CHRISTIAN (Maybe 'good' American though?)

[Magpie]

I would sugget this thread be put to bed until we get pictures of the sandcast engines it started with. It's sounding too much like another forum I belong to.
 :(Cliff.

[BeSeeingYou]

Well I am sure we all hope it works out for Excerpt but it sounds a bit creepy.  An old guy living out in the boonies dangles the idea of rare treasures to a young impressionable guy.   If you hear a banjo playing when you go out there run like hell.

[736cc]

Wise old saying:
DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY'RE HATCHED!

[jaguar]

so about those pics??

[scottly]

I'm still wondering about the frame. I did some searching on Spondon, and I didn't see any mention of an SOHC frame.

[phil71]

Holy #$%*! I'm on my 2nd bowl of popcorn!

[jaguar]

Better like international shipping if you are thinking about unloading them....

[phil71]

Shipping imaginary things is still pretty cheap, even internationally.

[scottly]

I hope the  OP starts a new thread as this one is in the crapper.

What? Come on...really?
 I just made some popcorn and grabbed a couple of PBRs.  This is getting good! 

But I to would like to know how excerpt is making out with the deal.  You still out there excerpt?

Yep. Still here. Watching this thread go to #$%*. :/
Here's hoping that everything works out to be exactly like the guy told me it was.
I don't know when I'll get to meet up with him. Might be a few days. Could be much longer, but WE WILL have closure on this.
Hopefully with a fantastic outcome!

[crazypj]

Valve guides PJ, also wrong on all other accounts.

OK, be a bit more specific
 You mean you can heat up only the part of the head holding the guides, plus not get any vibration onto the seats?
Guides are driven in from the spring side, than means the seats face down.
Aluminium expands about 6 times further than 'steel'
Heard of gravity?

 Too hot, not good.

Some motors are worse than others
Suzuki valve seats WILL fall out around 450f when you re-fit guides, it's why Suzuki tells you to press them in, plus, they don't supply 'standard' OD guides (you ream head 0.5mm)
Honda guides with wire circlip, drive them too deep and the circlip cracks them very neatly (sometimes from the factory, even in last few years)
 Honda guide with flange, drive too deep and flange bottoms out, then, the oil seal groove shatters.
 I've repaired hundreds (if not thousands ) of different cylinder head when people did it them selves because it's so 'easy'
 Just about anyone can 'do' a cast iron car head, air cooled bikes are completely different 
 Maybe you just get lucky, maybe GOD is on your side, maybe your just FOS?
 Instead of telling how great you are, how about some real information?

[crazypj]

Holy #$%*! I'm on my 2nd bowl of popcorn!

 Get ready with  third   

[Retro Rocket]

maybe your just FOS?

If this is a vote then i'm voting for this one....

[trueblue]

maybe your just FOS?

If this is a vote then i'm voting for this one....

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[Tim2005]

I'm still wondering about the frame. I did some searching on Spondon, and I didn't see any mention of an SOHC frame.

Me too. Spondon were originally a race frame maker, particularly for TZ yams, and they didn't do much, if anything, for bigger bikes in the 70s ... I doubt many people were racing 750/4s in the 80s and their streetbikes tend to be based around 1100+ bikes.  none of the frame maker pages on Axl's site have any mention of alloy frames either. Tis definitely much rarer than a sandcast anyway.