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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #100 on: January 27, 2012, 11:51:24 PM »
I think everyone is getting a bit anal about the whole thing, for a start its a world tour and we are already missing 100's of countries {impossible to get them all} and GZ travels by air in between because our bikes don't do water well, so it is never going to the kind of rally some are wanting here..... Just saying.... ;)

Everyone is going to have their own idea about what they'd like see done.  When it started here in the U.S., the stated goal was to hit all the contiguous states and most of the Canadian provinces and have GZ transported solely on SOHC4s.  That goal is what made the endeavor interesting and the goal was accomplished.  If it is no big deal to anyone else, then no sweat. 
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #101 on: January 28, 2012, 12:00:00 AM »
I think everyone is getting a bit anal about the whole thing, for a start its a world tour and we are already missing 100's of countries {impossible to get them all} and GZ travels by air in between because our bikes don't do water well, so it is never going to the kind of rally some are wanting here..... Just saying.... ;)

Everyone is going to have their own idea about what they'd like see done.  When it started here in the U.S., the stated goal was to hit all the contiguous states and most of the Canadian provinces and have GZ transported solely on SOHC4s.  That goal is what made the endeavor interesting and the goal was accomplished.  If it is no big deal to anyone else, then no sweat.

The only reason i said that Greg is that it would be virtually impossible to do that also in every country, GZ didn't visit every province in NZ and won't in most Euro countries either, not to mention all the countries that are missed. I just think its great that this has gone viral , i don't think it should be shrouded in rules, the forum is international and so is the relay, lets all do what we can within reason and have a good time doing it..... ;D ;)
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #102 on: January 28, 2012, 12:31:43 AM »
Keep in mind that the foregoing discussion in this thread has been about what will happen in the U.S. in 2012.  What happens here doesn't have much bearing on what you guys are doing because situations are different.  You guys have your plan and that is good.  I don't think anybody expects what happened in the U.S. will happen anywhere else.  I don't recall anybody saying that. 

Right now, there isn't a plan for the U.S. for 2012.  A plan requires a consensus, which requires a discussion about what to do.  It has nothing to do with being 'anal'.
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #103 on: January 28, 2012, 08:55:28 AM »
Keep in mind that the foregoing discussion in this thread has been about what will happen in the U.S. in 2012.  What happens here doesn't have much bearing on what you guys are doing because situations are different.  You guys have your plan and that is good.  I don't think anybody expects what happened in the U.S. will happen anywhere else.  I don't recall anybody saying that. 

Right now, there isn't a plan for the U.S. for 2012.  A plan requires a consensus, which requires a discussion about what to do.  It has nothing to do with being 'anal'.
Greg is correct what happened in the US and Canada was unique. There were a lot of riders involved. There were also a lot of coordinators and still, it was individual riders who pulled off some very hairy #$%* on their own to fill the gaps.

The original idea was not to just move a plastic toy across a geography, it was for members to meet face to face and hand that toy to each other. It gave members a chance to interact with each other personally rather than virtually as we are now. It also proved that owning and preserving this old iron we ride is not so crazy, it could hold up tough conditions.

What happens from here on out is almost a separate event. It will be dependent on how many bikes and riders are available.   
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2012, 09:52:03 AM »
All anyone can really hope for is to get as many riders onboard then formulate a plan and make something happen. The rules are what you make them, should be realistic, and bending them is not a sin if it is necessary. Just don't raise that bar too high and hopefully you can prevent that bending. For 2011 I really felt we could pull it off based on my riding experiences and the amazing enthusiasm that was shown here. Some of us did some really amazing feats considering and many riders thought us crazy. Not crazy just having fun within our own skill sets and experience. Perhaps we pushed our bars a little higher but that's how you learn and get better. I have only ridden in the US and Canada and would not even attempt to formulate a plan for other countries and have told them to do it their way. I had backup plans in my mind. However I did not throw them out there and let everyone off the hook  ;) UPS was one, spare log book, and twin of Godzilla is another. The guys took on the challenges and THEY made it happen. However I am REALLY surprised that GZ1 is still with us and not lost in a ditch somewhere! 

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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2012, 11:05:46 AM »
However I am REALLY surprised that GZ1 is still with us and not lost in a ditch somewhere! 

I see from Terry's pictures the piston is still in place.  I figured that would come off at some point so it is cool it is still there.  I spent a lot of time watching that piston spinning around.
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2012, 06:11:06 PM »

Last year, a lot of people were saying that the 2011 relay was the warm-up for the "real thing" in 2012.  A lot of people said that they weren't going to be ready for 2011, but would be this year.  There are a few people stepping up, but no where near what is needed to get this off the ground.

I've been saying all along that 2011 was the real thing.  At this point, I think it may be realistic to lower the bar and do something different.  I'd love to be proved wrong, though, and see a relay happen again so that those that couldn't ride last year can participate.

I have to agree: last year was the real thing, and I regret to say I don't think it will happen again. I say for 2012, we go for fun, and spend more time riding with other folks. If that means shipping GZ 500 miles, so be it. At least there won't be 1000 mile round-trip solo riders like last year...
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2012, 04:01:33 PM »
I agree with Ofreen. I saw a lot of people sign up then bow out at the last minute last year. I know I was only able to do the Chicago part of the Chicago to Indy part last year and we almost didn't have anyone to get GZ down to Indy.

It's well and good to want GZ to get everywhere by bike, but sticking to that last year did cause problems when he got hung up around New York because there weren't any rider willing and/or able to ride during the week to get him to Canada. The Michigan leg that I also participated in was pushed back a couple weeks by that.

My schedule is very flexible, but I still need a decent lead time to schedule a multiple day vacation. Most people can't change the dates of a 3-4 day vacation with only a week's notice.

I think decent date certainty for the various legs will help with participation, and that may mean that GZ 2.0 will accumulate some frequent flier miles with UPS or FedEx. In the end it's about we riders getting together to ride and make some new friends, not just running up GZ's mileage totals.
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2012, 04:42:01 PM »
Consider this. Last years rally was a success and yes people did bow out at the last minute so coordination is tough.

There is no reason duplicate what was done before, it has proved it could be done. If groups of members want to take GZ as our Mascot to events or go on group rides it could be mailed from place to place. It is about people

Just a thought.
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #109 on: January 31, 2012, 07:11:49 PM »
Check out the proposed route, with a West coast launch in this post:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=101662.0

Feedback welcome (and expected)...  ;)
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #110 on: January 31, 2012, 08:13:28 PM »
Check out the proposed route, with a West coast launch in this post:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=101662.0

Feedback welcome (and expected)...  ;)

I think it's a great plan and let's go with it! [unless someone comes up with another that sounds better].
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #111 on: January 31, 2012, 08:17:17 PM »
The plan is starting to take form!! Stev-o, are you up for coordinating NM and TX???
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #112 on: January 31, 2012, 08:25:32 PM »
The plan is starting to take form!! Stev-o, are you up for coordinating NM and TX???
How 'bout you take AZ & NM and I'll take TX & the next state? [LA?]
CA is so big, that coordinator will only have 1 state.
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2012, 08:31:31 PM »
Hell, I'll take CA, AZ, and NM!!! ;D
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #114 on: January 31, 2012, 09:03:43 PM »
Hell, I'll take CA, AZ, and NM!!! ;D

Done!  What is the kickoff date in Cali?
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2012, 09:22:00 PM »
I'm game for a kickoff in the San Francisco Bay area with a handoff in LA-ish. The weather can be perfecto that time of year, and it may coincide with one of the spring events here.

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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2012, 05:19:30 PM »
All right! We got scottly and Stev-o as regional coordinators and geminimotors as our lead-off rider! Anyone willing to serve as a regional coordinator, it's time to step up and let me know!  8)

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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #117 on: February 01, 2012, 07:15:37 PM »
I like the plan. September is a good time of year for me! I consider Madmtn my regional coordinator. I hope to travel a good bit farther this year!
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #118 on: February 01, 2012, 08:00:39 PM »
I nominate Madmtn my regional coordinator.

I second it!
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #119 on: February 03, 2012, 07:57:00 PM »
Map reflects updated (proposed) dates, finishing two weeks later (early October):

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=101662.0

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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #120 on: February 06, 2012, 08:04:35 AM »
Hello to all...........I've been busy with life and doing my 'thing' at Bonneville.........shameless self-promotion http://www.facebook.com/pages/Salt-Team-Advanced-Landspeed/222251137821263

I have read all of the comments from the various riders and I want to say.....Well Done!  Every member's opinion is worthy of consideration.  Sponsorship.....Great Idea but not yet accomplished. The M-C magazine article.......Will it happen?

The 2012 ride plan looks good to me...........catch a few events along the way..........suggest ending at Barber Vintage Festival in October. I am confident we will get more riders to fill in the blank spaces on the map. 

Regarding GZ visits to regional gathering events............Multiple banners could be made so each event rider could sign and have a group photo..........If GZ is available, he could be mailed for an appearance.

My K3 is ready to roll...........I'll hang back to see if someone else steps up to be the local ride coordinator.......Its time consuming but rewarding.
Dennis in Wisconsin
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Offline madmtnmotors

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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #121 on: February 06, 2012, 04:30:14 PM »
Relay Map reflects updated (proposed) dates:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=101662.0

Turns out some of the dates were out of sequence, and I fixed the fact that ALL of the dates fell on WEDNESDAY...

All of the dates on the map now fall on Saturday, which meant backing up the dates by four days. Look it over and let me know what you think!
TAMTF...


Wilbur



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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #122 on: February 06, 2012, 04:38:34 PM »
Looks good, thanks again!
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #123 on: February 06, 2012, 04:54:11 PM »
GREAT.............Rockerbox in Milwaukee is Aug 4................Lets Party............arrive before 10:AM for group parking............maybe a group ride in from a breakfast stop...........Cold PBR all around!
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
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Re: World Tour 2012
« Reply #124 on: February 06, 2012, 09:23:38 PM »
GREAT.............Rockerbox in Milwaukee is Aug 4................Lets Party............arrive before 10:AM for group parking............maybe a group ride in from a breakfast stop...........Cold PBR all around!
...and then go try and follow you around the Kettle Moraine the next day?... :) :D ;D ;)
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