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Offline HondaMan

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Inside HondaMan's head.
« on: May 14, 2006, 10:11:33 PM »
No, this is not Psych 101. This is about my 750.  ;)

I took out my engine this weekend (ow, my back..) and disassembled for my next rebuild (MAN, that head was stuck!), and thought some of you might want to see some of the insides of my 100,000+ mile roadraced/toured engine, or parts of it, anyway. Here's a picture of the combustion chamber (#4 in this pix). Those of you familiar with these heads might say, "Huh?" - it's missing some things, like valve shrouding ,charge mix ridges, and (visible) some metal in the intake tract. The head has been partially hemi-ed and the ports raised, widened and smoothed to match the throats of the 28mm carbs that feed 'em. The compression in this engine is about 8.8:1 with stock "K" pistons, stock head gasket, stock cylinders and stock cam at stock timing. The CR was closer to 9.0:1 in this particular engine because of cam timing changes.

My new plan includes milling this head for a "stock" CR of 9.2:1, possibly decking the cylinders if the pistons will allow, and modifying the quench zones for more turbulence and directed charge flow at the plug, a la the Magna series engines. It will also become fully hemi-ed, the valves will be polished (since I don't have inspectors looking over my shoulder anymore) and the intake ports will be smoothed and raised some more. The cam plans will become whatever I can find...

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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2006, 10:24:56 PM »
 I guess the DIY 'surface discharge' spark plug is to prevent damage to threads?
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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2006, 09:06:00 PM »
He was involved with the development of the SplitFire plug, too. The locals call him "snake oil Jones" because of the scams he's always coming up with and trying to market. I work with the guy who first made the electrode-splitting tooling for the early Splitfires, back in Florida. He knows the guy REAL well...
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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 09:06:44 PM »
I guess the DIY 'surface discharge' spark plug is to prevent damage to threads?
PJ

Yeah, and for my dream of a 100,000 volt coil someday...  ;)
See SOHC4shop.com for info about the gadgets I make for these bikes.

The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 09:32:58 PM »
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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 11:35:44 PM »
#4 doesn't look like a Champ at all. Looks a little wet to me. Float problem ??? Plug wire ?? Plug cap ??  Not firing or too much fuel ??
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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2006, 01:30:37 AM »
To me, it looks like 2 and 3 are running just about the right temperature. 1 is too hot or weak while 4 is rich and a bit sooty.

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Re: Inside HondaMan's head.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2006, 08:59:51 PM »
Yeah, don't know yet, still an occassional backfire on that side, not ready to run.
If you look close at #3 washer base - you can see the washer smashed into the threads - thought that one was a bad threads plug hole - and it had the weirdest tighten untighten properties- that damn washer was in between and sometimes spinning around the plug as well.  :D 
Ran in a set of ngk and it was fine in and out. whew

Doc, one of the things that used to happen a lot with the 750: a washer from a previous plug gets jammed down in the hole where it's impossible to see. Then, the next plug comes out looking just like your #4: squished or torn washer, sooty plug. The plug overheats and burns out the jump gap in the core, then it looks like a wet plug - when it's really not.

Try real hard to see down it that plug hole for a well-disguised, smashed flat, old washer. I saw it a lot when I was working in Honda shops.   ;)
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The demons are repulsed when a man does good. Use that.
Blood is thicker than water, but motor oil is thicker yet...so, don't mess with my SOHC4, or I might have to hurt you.
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