Topic: Helmets, Harleys, arguments

[crazypj]

Hi folks,
the helmet/harley/honda caused a bit of discussion,
How about this then?
What are peoples veiws on the new Movie
 'The DaVinci Code'
Is it a conspriacy and coverup?
Why is there so much interest in a piece of fiction?
If its all wrong why did the Vatican denounce it?
New can of worms
PJ

[Rushoid]

Hey PJ,
I gotta say that I loved the book. One of my all time favorites. I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but aside from a brilliant storyline, I guess the thrill was just finding out secrets - real or not. I know it's fiction but a lot of it is based on fact. Fact being that there really are secret societies, actual churches & temples, Opus Dei, etc. and that there is a true underground belief about Jesus having a wife & kids. There are a lot of plausible ideas there. I was raised Catholic but I've always been interested in the history of the Church more than following their beliefs (or laws) down to the letter. The Catholic Church has been too big, too powerful, for too long for there NOT to be some kind of coverups along the way. Just my opinion.

Notice I didn't call anybody any names? 

[6pkrunner]

Isn't that Dan Brown's book where he claimed Jesus owned a Harley and Mary wore a full face helmet?
And there's a secret sect within the Catholic motorcycle shop that sells chrome parts?

[ElCheapo]

Have never read the book. However wasn't there a notation in the preface of the book that said it was fiction?

In these things I think everyone is wrong and everyone is right. No matter where you look they (religions, scholars, etc) all have a piece of the grand puzzle. Not the final answer or the complete puzzle. I think each group has a piece they are supposed to guard with everything they have. Catholics nail the Crucifixion (no pun intended) hard and keep it in everything they do, The Baptists believe in small community (started in the times of the Roman Empire), The Jewish believe God is one and the Christ was a prophetic speaker and not the son of God, and the list goes on. This list of puzzle piece holders is not limited to living religion followers, it does encompass even Pagan beliefs.

When will they figure out that they are supposed to come together and put the puzzle together once and for all? It's like a kindergarten room where we have given one piece to each kid, hop them up on sugar and leave them to figure it out. 

While I know a lot on this subject but wont go where I do not know.

For reference Davinci was a man of science, he thought religion was used to fill in spots of ignorance.

[cbjunkie]

here's Pat Buchanan's point of view... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50221

[GroovieGhoulie]

here's Pat Buchanan's point of view... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50221

Like him or not, Pat DOES have a point about how it's perfectly alright to mock and make fun of certain groups (white, heterosexual, Christian males or any combination thereof), but other groups (everyone that is not white, Christian, hetero or male or some combination thereof) are off-limits.

[scott_cb650]

it's perfectly alright to mock and make fun of certain groups (white, heterosexual, Christian males or any combination thereof), but other groups (everyone that is not white, Christian, hetero or male or some combination thereof) are off-limits.

TOO TRUE!

[ElCheapo]

I say make fun of all of them....

Everyone needs a good hard ribbing 

[Uncle Ernie]

"And there's a secret sect within the Catholic motorcycle shop that sells chrome parts?"

I think the problem was that they were trying to pass them off as OEM during religious holidays. Parishoners felt required to buy them or go to hell.

[ElCheapo]

I give, I know I'm going to hell  Ooo wait there is no hell. 

[amattel]

I believe that the public story of what the church (I will leave it as a general label for many religious groups) is about and where and how it came to be is probably filled with all sorts of skeletons and misinformation.

Just look at your everage joe (or jane for that matter).  While many of us live up to the image of doing what we know to be right in our hearts, much of the time, I would guess that most of us have had our periods of being afraid/angry/egocentric where we have perhaps not acted from our highest vision of ourselves...  The human experience is rife with confusion and pain whcih easily distorts our view of the world....  So if you consider this in light of the inflated ego of a religious organization which has stumbled through many centuries of development and "covered it's butt" more times than one can count, I believe that it is a safe assumption that things are definitely NOT as they may seem.

This leaves the door open to much speciulation ("fiction") as to what the truth may be, and we mgiht even get lucky (or perhaps be guided by greater forces) into stumbling upon a truth in the process....

I have heard that according to the Mayan Calendar, we are in a time when organizations which are not in integrity are falling apart... providing an opportunity for us humans to find a more heartful way to relate to each other... 

Perhaps it is hogwash, perhaps it is ... divine. 

Adam

[cbjunkie]

"hell is other people." - fred n.

that's for you, il heepo... 

[BobbyR]

Brown's book is a knock off of a BBC Documentary and a book called Holy Blood Holy Grail which is far better reading and more informative.  As far as political correctness, you will notice the Pope, Cardinals, and my Parish Priest are not asking us to hunt down the Author and kill him. 

[cbjunkie]

riding the dark horse, bob?  they lost that one i think - possible of course that the whole thing was a publicity stunt to attract attention not only to dan brown, but to the neglected "historians" who wrote the other less famous book to which you refer...

whatever the mess - the church has not yet learned how NOT to attract attention to the information that it despises and fears...how dense can they be?

[BobbyR]

Well I like a good read that is off center and the World is full of that stuff. Personally I could care less if they are on to something or not, if they are correct, my CB750 still won't start or run cold, but never ran better warmed up. That is the mystery that has all my attention. If you want to read more about Holy Blood Holy Grail this fellow wrote a decent article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Blood,_Holy_Grail

[74cb750]

Good thing Jesus was not a Muslim that converted ....
otherwise the Islamics would have put out a "fatwa"
on Dan Brown.

And all the mc parts would have strange lettering on them...
peace,
michel

[cbjunkie]

so Jesus' grandchildren have repopulated France? what does this tell you?...something about turning the other cheek? 

maybe they really did learn their lessons...

no wonder the Italians are so mad.

[Raul CB750K1]

As a declared CB750 snob as I am, I consider myself superior to the average person. Therefore, as soon as a movie, record or book start to become popular I decide it's for the masses and I don't read it. It happened with "Who moved my cheese -or whatever the original title was-", with Daniel Goleman's books, and of course with Dan Brown's book. It's very easy to spot them. I sometimes use the train to commute. Take a walk between wagons: any book that you find three or more people reading it is not worth the time. I had to do a big effort to finish Stephen King's "It"...


Raul

[Terry in Australia]

As a declared CB750 snob as I am, I consider myself superior to the average person. Therefore, as soon as a movie, record or book start to become popular I decide it's for the masses and I don't read it. It happened with "Who moved my cheese -or whatever the original title was-", with Daniel Goleman's books, and of course with Dan Brown's book. It's very easy to spot them. I sometimes use the train to commute. Take a walk between wagons: any book that you find three or more people reading it is not worth the time. I had to do a big effort to finish Stephen King's "It"...
Raul

Spanish wanker! How can you be superior to everyone else when I so obviously am! Geeza Louiza, I'm so "Up myself" I'm almost inside-out!

Anyway, I'm much taller than you, have more hair, and wouldn't be seen dead on a CB350 "Boat Anchor", (or a train for that matter, particularly in Spain, if the terrorists don't kill you, the stench of garlic and methane gas will) so get back to the second-hand book store from whence you came (literally) with the rest of your short, balding, smelly countrymen and women, and don't come back here until you've read the book and re-affirmed your place in the lower end of society, or I'll taunt you some more! Cheers, Terry. (so ssnobby, I spell it with 2 "S"s!) 

[6pkrunner]

And for all the Harley snobs out there - V twins are passe, radials are now the rage

[Terry in Australia]

And for all the Harley snobs out there - V twins are passe, radials are now the rage

That's incredible! I wanty!

[Raul CB750K1]

As a declared CB750 snob as I am, I consider myself superior to the average person. Therefore, as soon as a movie, record or book start to become popular I decide it's for the masses and I don't read it. It happened with "Who moved my cheese -or whatever the original title was-", with Daniel Goleman's books, and of course with Dan Brown's book. It's very easy to spot them. I sometimes use the train to commute. Take a walk between wagons: any book that you find three or more people reading it is not worth the time. I had to do a big effort to finish Stephen King's "It"...
Raul

Spanish wanker! How can you be superior to everyone else when I so obviously am! Geeza Louiza, I'm so "Up myself" I'm almost inside-out!

Anyway, I'm much taller than you, have more hair, and wouldn't be seen dead on a CB350 "Boat Anchor", (or a train for that matter, particularly in Spain, if the terrorists don't kill you, the stench of garlic and methane gas will) so get back to the second-hand book store from whence you came (literally) with the rest of your short, balding, smelly countrymen and women, and don't come back here until you've read the book and re-affirmed your place in the lower end of society, or I'll taunt you some more! Cheers, Terry. (so ssnobby, I spell it with 2 "S"s!) 

HAHAHA, I didn't know the garlic myth had reached that far. Actually, it is the french the ones that are known to smell like garlic.

I was wondering something about the french the other day. I think this is the best moment to start a topic.


Raul

[6pkrunner]

. I had to do a big effort to finish Stephen King's "It"...

-you mean someone actually read that entire book? Talk about perserverence and masochism. 

[Raul CB750K1]

. I had to do a big effort to finish Stephen King's "It"...

-you mean someone actually read that entire book? Talk about perserverence and masochism. 

You are right; I finished it more for the peace of mind of not leaving things unfinished than for the pleasure of riding it. The first quarter of the book was somewhat entertaining, but then it was so boring that I didn't like it at all.

Raul

[Terry in Australia]

I've long held the belief that Stephen King probably doesn't write all of his own books. He is a prolific story teller, and an incredible mind for sure, but if you read all his books (and I've read most of them) it appears that his actual writing style seems to change backwards and forwards between books, which is highly unusual among authors, normally once they've written a few books they stick with the formula that they've developed.

If I was a "conspiracy theorist" ( ) I'd suggest that he's probably got a team of young writers working for him, he feeds them the ideas and keeps an eye on the progress of the books, (so certainly owns the intellectual property) but most likely leaves it up to them to fill in the blanks between events. Just a thought, of course................ Cheers, Terry.