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Offline tory b

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400F wiring whoas
« on: November 05, 2011, 06:06:07 PM »
   As I mentioned in my rectifier post,The PO of my 400F really hacked up the wiring.There was alot of cut,spliced and melted wires,including a door bell button and a toggle switch or two.

I got a replacement harness and put it in today,and have a new rectifier coming but I still have a question.

On the left side of the bike by the fuse box on the replacement harness there is a square two wire plug that I have nothing to hook to it.I believe the wires are red.On the old cobbled harness they had two small 14 gauge wires going into a cheap yellow butt splice.to a 8 gauge cable to the starter solenoid.Obviously I'm not doing that.

Does anybody have an idea what I am missing that would plug into this square two terminal plug?
And would anyone be able to take a picture of behind the left sidecover for me to help see what I am missing.

Thank you again, 
1975 CB400F
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Offline jessezm

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Re: 400F wiring whoas
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 06:49:48 AM »
Just working from memory, that might be the diode/rectifier thingy that makes up your clutch safety mechanism.  Light green/red comes from the 8-terminal block out of the alternator and routes both to the positive terminal of the diode and directly to the neutral indicator light.  A green/red wire comes out of the negative terminal of the diode and goes to the starter solenoid and also to the clutch switch.  Again, working from memory, I think just took all that crap off and wired the y/r and g/r wires together at the starter solenoid to bypass the clutch safety (won't let you enable the starter button without clutch pulled it).

Offline Bodi

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Re: 400F wiring whoas
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 08:44:17 AM »
This is indeed for the starter interlock diode.
If you leave it with nothing, you will need to pull the clutch in to use the electric starter, the diode allows it to work when the bike is in neutral as well. This assumes your clutch switch is correct, of course.
If you connect the two wires you can start it with clutch in or in neutral... but your neutral light will come on whenever the clutch is pulled in, not so good for finding neutral with the engine running if you forget it's between first and second gear. It's unnerving to have a light flashing on the panel all the time too.
Or you can jumper the clutch switch wires and have the starter all the time.
Or just install a diode. 5A 100V piv is good. One way will work, the other won't; backwards won't fry the diode.

Offline tory b

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Re: 400F wiring whoas
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 03:23:00 PM »
I believe the diode is there.Is that the silicone rectifier?I have that part.

After looking at the diagram on bikebandit it almost looks like the two wires go into one bike wire to the solonoid.Can this be correct?Is that the diode you are talking about?

I would love a picture behind someones sidecover.
1975 CB400F
1973 CB500
1982 CB900F
1983 GL1100 W/Vetter sidecar

www.vintagericeburners.com

Offline Tim2005

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Re: 400F wiring whoas
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 02:04:23 PM »
Presumably your bike is not running & electrically is very dead indeed? The missing wires are what connect the live side of the harness to the battery. The old cobbled harness wasn't so wrong... the two wire plug with one red and one red/white wire should have a short pair of wires that connect to the starter solenoid; the two wires join together to one terminal that goes on the same solenoid post as the battery wire. If you download a parts book you can see it as # 241 part no    35858-333-000  - actually just google that part no & you'll find a pic.