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Offline stampederunner

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Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« on: October 30, 2011, 12:00:34 PM »
Might be a dumb question, but are parts available for a 1973 cb350f? I have a chance to buy a pair of Shriner's bikes for a decent price. All I know about them is that they kick over and have been sitting in a garage for over 10 years. It is my understanding that it is a 1 model year bike so is there anything specific to that model that might be impossible to find?
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 02:10:12 PM »

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 02:12:14 PM »
Yes, and a sweet bike they are. :-)
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 02:28:12 PM »
Buy them! Parts are available (not all but enough to get you back on the road) and 350 fours seem to be climbing in value. I would assume that Shriner's bikes would have been well cared for as a plus...Larry

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2011, 03:28:34 PM »
Just purchased one myself. I've ordered a lot of parts for that model.

When you search, say East Coast Cycle, it is under model year 1972. It's usually not listed in 1973 as there were no changes. Not sure about 1974.

From what I hear they were not that popular when they were released. Very popular now.

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2011, 10:26:52 PM »
Just purchased one myself. I've ordered a lot of parts for that model.

When you search, say East Coast Cycle, it is under model year 1972. It's usually not listed in 1973 as there were no changes. Not sure about 1974.

From what I hear they were not that popular when they were released. Very popular now.

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When they came out, CYCLE magazine had just done a story on a (illegally modified) version of the Kawi triple that was also 350cc. It blew the doors off the 500cc triple in the road test of all 3 Kawi triples at once. The 'lowly CB530F from Honda' in a subsequent issue hardly received a nod, because it was, and is, a unique, special bike. As it turned out, the Kawi dealer who made the scam got busted very publicly about 2 months later (mostly by Kawi, angry about it all for the lies). With the 12-second Kawi 350 triple excitement going on, no one noticed the new Baby Four.

Except college students, who bought them in droves. They were/are nearly as reliable as a CB500/550, and very friendly to own and ride. It is rumored to have been Sochiro's favorite of all his bikes, and he bought one for himself and rode it to work regularly, something he never did with the others. It was 'forced' into the 400cc class, with higher performance and 4-1 pipes, by US marketers in 1975.

The 1972 and 1973 until mid-year are all but identical. The ones after that came in 2 ever-so-slightly different versions, with minor differences in the suspension being about the only way to tell them apart. All of the pieces from all of the years interchange.

And, they are my favorite sewing machines... ;)
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 06:31:24 AM »
Thank you for that info.  8)

I try to read all I can about that model. Yeah, I was suprised at how low they are geared.

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 02:18:59 PM »

The 1972 and 1973 until mid-year are all but identical. The ones after that came in 2 ever-so-slightly different versions, with minor differences in the suspension being about the only way to tell them apart. All of the pieces from all of the years interchange.


Could you elaborate on these differences.  What exactly were the differences in the suspension?

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 10:59:00 PM »

The 1972 and 1973 until mid-year are all but identical. The ones after that came in 2 ever-so-slightly different versions, with minor differences in the suspension being about the only way to tell them apart. All of the pieces from all of the years interchange.


Could you elaborate on these differences.  What exactly were the differences in the suspension?

There are 2 different dampers ring sets in the front forks, early to late. One has more holes than the other, but at the moment I don't remember which is which, there. I suspect the later ones have less holes, though.

The swingarm pivot on the early ones had 2 grease zerks on the ends of the big bolt. Before 1973, this became one zerk on one side of the bolt. In early 1974, the zerk moved to the bottom center of the swingarm itself (like the CB400F). The phenolic bushings in the early ones came straight from the CB500, with felt washers and end caps like the Big Fours had, and the holes in the swingarm are bored 2.2" deep to accept the longer bushings, despite the fact that the collar has only 1.6" of bearing area. In the "middle" version the bushings changed to flanged ones that were 1.775" deep, with no seals. In the final version, they were shortened to 1.675" long total length over the flange, and the arm was not bored so deeply, accepting only 1.7" deep bushings. The latter 2 systems wear as quickly as the one in the CB400F, which yields about 10k miles of decent handling, followed by wobbly feelings.

I make whole bronze retrofit rebuilds for them, with new, hardened collars, all custom fitted. It's not a kit: I have to have the arm to do it. Honda's parts DON'T fit it today: there is some sort of error in their parts interchange system, and incorrect bushings are being sent out to folks when they buy the parts. I get a lot of those... :(

The tires also changed on the last year, as did the material in the rear brake shoes. The earlier ones often squeaked. The "new" rear shoes have little grooves cut across them, too, and the material is more smooth and stiff. It worked better.

The 3 things that really boost the suspension performance on the Baby Four:
1. Roller steering head bearings, a must.
2. Good swingarm bushings and collar.
3. Air forks, because the front springs sagged very quickly and travel ended up at 2.5" with loss of trail.

And, rear shocks with real damping improves the corners, too. The OEM ones lost all damping in about 5000 miles or 2 years, whichever came first...
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 06:20:44 AM »
Hondaman, thanks for all your info!  It's really good to document these things, especially if someone is trying to rebuild/restore one.

The air forks that you suggest for improvement sounds interesting: is there a reference as to how or where to do this?  I also notice in your list of performance improvements, that you didn't mention anything about upgrading the ignition points system. :o

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 06:34:17 AM »
Hondaman, thanks for all your info!  It's really good to document these things, especially if someone is trying to rebuild/restore one.

The air forks that you suggest for improvement sounds interesting: is there a reference as to how or where to do this?  I also notice in your list of performance improvements, that you didn't mention anything about upgrading the ignition points system. :o
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Hondaman, thanks for all your info!  It's really good to document these things, especially if someone is trying to rebuild/restore one.

The air forks that you suggest for improvement sounds interesting: is there a reference as to how or where to do this?  I also notice in your list of performance improvements, that you didn't mention anything about upgrading the ignition points system. :o

Here is  an aftermarket air fork cap on Ebay  http://www.ebay.com/itm/150684178720?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649  I had three sets, this is the last.  You could easily make the same by drilling and installing a Schraeder valve...Larry

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 08:44:54 AM »
Speaking of swingarm zerks, where do you get the right grease gun fitting? My standard gun has the wrong end on it.  :(

Thanks.

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 08:55:18 AM »
I've had many 350F's over the last 30 years, I currently own 3 basket case projects that will get built into custom cafe racers next year and sold off one at a time. I just finished building a clients 1973 CB350F into a really sweet cafe racer. All finished he has about $3500 into it and figure a little less than half was my labor.

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These are not the fastest bikes in the world but they are seriously fun to try to make them go fast. I'm a big boy at 6'3" and 260lbs. I got this one up to 95mph before shutting her down to take these pictures. Also in current state we stripped almost 60lbs off the stock bike by changing or just omitting different parts. The E-start is gone as well as a few lbs of associated wiring and parts. Also a 14oz SLA battery is hidden under the seat bubble. I went completely through the motor and replaced all seals and gaskets but this bike was a low miles barn find with 5800 on the clocks. After a bit of carb tuning and rejetting she purrs like a kitten.

If I were you I'd buy them, but not for any investment value. These are a "Smiles per Mile" kind of cycle, they will never have the nostalgia factor of their bigger brother the CB750 or the price tag for that matter. These bikes will go 100K miles before a needed overhaul if you give them love and fresh oil every 2500 miles. I had one in HS back in 84-87 that took me 35K miles in 3 years. Never a whimper and I flogged the poo out of her.  :o

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 09:14:08 AM »
Hiatus member flybox1 had a Shriner 350F I think they are generally low mile and well maintained bikes. Unless it was crashed and wouldn't hesitate.
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 11:01:35 AM »
I ended up buying both of them and also got a truckload of parts. I guess the guy helped maintain the fleet of bikes for his club and knows where a few more might be.
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 11:14:34 AM »
Great score!

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 02:28:57 PM »
I ended up buying both of them and also got a truckload of parts. I guess the guy helped maintain the fleet of bikes for his club and knows where a few more might be.

Pics or it didn't really happen!  8)
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 02:57:20 PM »
I ended up buying both of them and also got a truckload of parts. I guess the guy helped maintain the fleet of bikes for his club and knows where a few more might be.

Pics or it didn't really happen!  8)

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 03:30:33 PM »
This is the only pic I have so far.
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 03:34:55 PM »
I want post pics soon of the headers the bikes have. Its a 4 into 2 setup with H-pipes conecting all the pipes. Very different from stock. I'm almost ashamed of how much I got them for, but I told the old man to name his lowest price and I jumped all over it. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2011, 04:27:59 PM »
I see parts! Many parts!

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2011, 04:35:32 PM »
Wow....

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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2011, 05:08:25 PM »
Wow....

Is that a good wow or a bad wow? I really dont care for the way they look with the bags and everything. I plan on stripping one and restoring it and hopefully selling one.
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2011, 05:21:59 PM »
Still on Hiatus, duanob...but lurking  :P

Stampede,
here's what mine (Seattle Shriner's bike) looked like.
before (it and its original owner are on the far right in the picture) 
...and after :) 
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Re: Can you still get parts for a cb350f?
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2011, 05:24:57 PM »
Keep the bags, makes them that much more rare and desireable/unique.  Those fairings look like the one another member was asking about in an earlier thread.
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