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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2011, 11:53:55 am »
Well word to the wise dont ever try and find grade 8 bolts longer than 6 inches in south mississippi.
I had to cut down and rethread my old ones. and as for spacers go I had to use some 12 mm metric nuts and weld them together. really strong and took up all of the slack. later after I get it together and running I will replace all of this stuff with billet cnc ran equipment if I have to. I got a smokin deal on resin and glass at the marine supply here in gulfport.  They had what you guys were talking about and I am going to get it later to use for the primary (inside) layer on my tank. It is a weave with chop strand on top of it. looks perfect for what I need but it also looks like it will soak up a ton of resin...

I see why this guy chose to do the backbone the way he did.






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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2011, 12:03:08 pm »
Well word to the wise dont ever try and find grade 8 bolts longer than 6 inches in south mississippi.
I had to cut down and rethread my old ones. and as for spacers go I had to use some 12 mm metric nuts and weld them together. really strong and took up all of the slack. later after I get it together and running I will replace all of this stuff with billet cnc ran equipment if I have to. I got a smokin deal on resin and glass at the marine supply here in gulfport.  They had what you guys were talking about and I am going to get it later to use for the primary (inside) layer on my tank. It is a weave with chop strand on top of it. looks perfect for what I need but it also looks like it will soak up a ton of resin...
Let's be clear that the twisted tooling cloth I'm talking about does not include any chop strand.  It is woven cloth, period.
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2011, 11:45:49 am »
the caswell liner is good stuff, i just got done doing my tank with it.  dont worry about sealing over your petcock hole, as long as you un-plug it and set it upright to drain in a bucket or something as it dries it shouldn't dry in the hole.  if it does it will just be a little and that will come out easily with a knife, or it can be drilled out.
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2011, 12:28:30 pm »
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2011, 02:43:12 pm »
gotta take a break till first week of next month. I went through my budget too fast. I need to sell the engine and other bits from the old motor to continue. Wasnt planning on buying 100 bux of fiberglass stuff just yet but the deal was to good to pass up.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2011, 01:36:51 pm »
Well the radiator is huuuuge! Any ideas on something smaller (would I be flirting with danger due to diminished cooling capacity of a smaller rad??)

Time to clean up the mounts and make them look not so much like flatbar take out some of the rough edges etc

I have either misplaced some wires or just dont have them. I think redlined sent me the cdi and fuel pump but who knows where it is at. I just came back to the thing after about 3 weeks of just letting it sit. 

I started glassing up an airbox for it and it is gonna be sweet. here are some pics.






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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2011, 02:28:43 pm »
Well the radiator is huuuuge!
Yup.  At WOT, that thing has to dissipate about 80 kw of heat.  Which is a lot.

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Any ideas on something smaller (would I be flirting with danger due to diminished cooling capacity of a smaller rad??)
Going smaller does pose risks, but they might be acceptable if you're willing to be careful about how you use the bike.

Another option is to go with 2 smaller rads, like on a VFR.  Might be easier to package.  Or a tall, thin rad like on a VTX.
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2011, 05:00:58 pm »
and a very large oil cooler....
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2011, 10:26:05 am »
How about a GL1000 radiator?  Should fit the front pretty similar to a cb750.

Gauge pod fit nicely between the clubmans, like it was meant to be...
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2011, 11:03:57 am »
I would try to think a bit out of the box , where to put it ? Maybe horizontal under the seat , using fans to blow the air through ?
Between the rear struts of the frame triangle , so it follows the line of those two ?

Not saying it would fit or even work , just of the top of my head  :)
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #85 on: December 16, 2011, 12:13:50 pm »
How about a GL1000 radiator?  Should fit the front pretty similar to a cb750.

Gauge pod fit nicely between the clubmans, like it was meant to be...
GL1000 rad is probably undersized for the CBR600 motor.
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #86 on: December 16, 2011, 01:53:24 pm »
Wait, was the title of this thread "2012 Honda Concept.." when you started it? If this thread was a boat I would be sitting beside you. My own project has come across hurdles and needs for more parts and other makes and models....(lots of extra stuff, lots of changed directions) Just take your time, take a break and scroll around to look at other builds, makes models, girls...anything. When you have the solution it will hit you like an epiphany.

How about a couple small radiators (KX250) and...can you have cooling fins welded onto the block? Form and function + rad = cool

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2011, 02:42:48 pm »
I appreciate the replies. I so far only have honda parts and fiberglass put on it. I am thinking something else for the rearsets.

I will try and fit the rad inder the uprights where I sit. I was just putting the question out there while I am setting up the backbone.
I got 90% of the wiring sorted out but I am gonna have to splice and lengthen a majority of it to get it under my seat cowl.

yeah how cool is it that the instrument cluster will mount right in there snug as a bug. lol

more pics...

put the seat on for nostalgia..



welding braces to hold the neck in position..





little cleanup


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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #88 on: December 16, 2011, 02:46:23 pm »
gonna try and tack in the backbone tomorrow. I only have a stick welder and some 6010 rods 5/32. I think I will pick up some 7018 1/8 in the AM and then rent a mig after I have everything tacked up really good and think it is ready for some solid welds.

Im gettin excited again.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #89 on: December 16, 2011, 06:37:45 pm »
I know you're in the Alpha stages of this and all, but man, I want to see this thing happen. Keep going! More power to you.
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #90 on: December 17, 2011, 12:16:55 am »
I just wish I had 20 million bucks so I could just do this stuff all of the time. Come up with some wildly awesome contraption every month.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #91 on: December 17, 2011, 12:55:54 am »
super interested in seeing the finished product :D
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #92 on: December 17, 2011, 02:55:50 am »

I want it to look as if honda just put this on the market..


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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #93 on: December 17, 2011, 03:40:30 pm »
Finally!!! got the backbone in and the neck mounted.
Started putting the airbox together.

Gonna start welding motor mounts and getting that sucker to sit in there straight 2morrow.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #94 on: December 19, 2011, 02:33:50 pm »
O.K. got the mounts worked out, just have to move one hole (Yay!!!) and the motor should sit in straight and the chain will line up. I put the chain on it today and the sprockets are so different that the teeth dont line up between them on the same chain?? So I have to figure out how many teeth to get on whichever one I decide to swap out. ]\
fix one thing.....

I kinda put it back together so I could feel as if Im getting somewhere and it looks pretty cool.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #95 on: December 19, 2011, 05:01:36 pm »
A few minutes on google put onto the idea of using a car heater core or two and using fans on that. I plan on putting side covers over the triangle section of frame so I could mount em there. I really wanna keep those classic lines.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #96 on: December 21, 2011, 01:23:44 am »
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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2011, 10:10:38 am »
I don't know how I missed this one. Subscribed! Makes me wish that I didn't part out the GSXR750 motor I had in order to fund my 466 project.

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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2011, 02:59:44 pm »
Busy day today !
We got the mounts completed. tacked em up really good and will finish weld soon.
Made sure we could drop the engine for repairs easily and we only have to remove 8 bolts and 2 mounts to do so.
put the engine back in and started masking off for the fiberglass gas tank. hope the caswells liner works out.

now for the pics...

engine out...





masking for the tank bottom






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Re: 2013 honda concept. 76 550 with cbr600 f4
« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2011, 05:22:57 pm »
That frame needs a whole hell of a lot more bracing.  So does the swingarm, is that in the plan?
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FWIW, I'm not a shill for Race Tech - I've just got a thing for good suspension and the RTCE's are the most cost-effective mod for these old damping rod front ends.