Topic: training wheels for 750

[DaveInTexas]

Are you guys going to let me put crash bars on my 70 750?
Really new to street riding, this thing is Heavy, and I'm afraid of dropping it and bending/scratching stuff.
Is that what they are designed for? 
Will the Anti-Modification Police have my head?

DT

[scunny]

You will get used to the weight, it's just a matter of time and then the bike will fit like a glove. It works the other way too, try riding the ol sohc around for a while and then jump on a Ducati monster, the steering seems very scary for a while.

[Serge]

I bought my 750 with bars and I had it down three times while I was getting used to it (it is my first motorcycle).  Just couple weeks ago I took the bars off since they were all scratched rusty and ugly and reduced cornering cleareance (though it may be after me bending and straigthening them).
So, I managed to lay it down again. Now I am contemplating putting them back, since it looks like they also prevent getting the feet trapped under the bike in a lowside falls .. 

[DaveInTexas]

where to buy?
which ones are best?
how to be sure they will fit?

[Tim.]

I bought my 750 with bars and I had it down three times while I was getting used to it (it is my first motorcycle).  Just couple weeks ago I took the bars off since they were all scratched rusty and ugly and reduced cornering cleareance (though it may be after me bending and straigthening them).
So, I managed to lay it down again. Now I am contemplating putting them back, since it looks like they also prevent getting the feet trapped under the bike in a lowside falls .. 

If you're concerned about cornering clearance being limited by crash bars, perhaps that explains the frequency of dropping the bike?

Have you updated your suspension/tires/brakes?

[scunny]

Are you sliding out ?..... front or rear ?
or are you toppling over at low speeds ?

[Terry in Australia]

While I know that crash bars are popular with many here, a word or two of warning is probably appropriate, some of the larger frame mounted bars can actually damage your bike's frame in a low speed drop, and a lot of the "engine protection" bars that were very popular in the day will just bend back into the engine and damage your engine cases on the points and alternator sides.

Yeah, I know that without them you will damage your engine too, but I think that they're next to useless, apart from mounting driving lights and maybe highway pegs, for those of us with longer legs and massive penis', ha ha! Cheers, Terry.

[Raul CB750K1]

I have frame bars that the guy I bought the bike from gave me. He removed them because he didn't liked the looks, neither do I. I think they can be useful in standstill falls, if you can "stop the fall" so the bike will softly land on the bars. I rather driver carefully, being aware of the traction, and keeping the rubber down at all times. When I fall I will decide what to do with the wreckage.

Can you imagine a crotch rocket with crash bars? They have some kind of crash pegs that protrude out of the fairing, but I  really don't think they will be really useful.

Raul

[crazypj]

Most of the stunt guys make their own form of crashbars. usually pretty ugly and heavy,full loops under crankcase, etc. Modern sportbikes with cast/extruded alloy frames get destroyed pretty easy when flipped upside down.  Seen a couple make complete rear subframes out of 5/16" steel plate/square section tube. Couple actually look like factory mods when painted.
PJ

[DaveInTexas]

I was thinking standsitill falls, I highly doubt I will be doing hairpins at 100mph! and if I drop it at all while driving it will be a major deal.

So, will just about any bars out there do what I want, and will they all fit or do you need to buy specific ones?

[putnaja1]

While you are new- here is something that I've personally found..  The kinda thing that would make me drop my bikes early on (I started on dirt bikes, and wrecks were daily occurances!) where anything that would make me stop short- like a low speed turn, and the motor stalls, or something like that.  It's pretty easy to do that if you are in the driveway or parking lot.  Another thing that seems to get folks are the sidestand- either they forget to put it down, and they get off, or they forget to put it back up, and go around a left corner.

Anyway, the sidestand one you just have to add to your mental checklist of things to check before getting off the bike (or taking off on the bike!)  For the stall one, I've learned to avoid those by teaching people this:  If you are on a new bike, and slightly uncomfortable with the clutch, try this exercise.  With the bike running and in gear, but clutch in (and stopped, your feet holding you), hold on the front brake, and slowly ease the clutch out, just until you hear/see the motor slow down a bit, then pull the clutch back in.  You are gettiing used to the clutch engagement here.  As you get more comfortable with the engagement, stop using the front brake, and give the motor a little bit more gas.  This time, ease the clutch out until the bike moves forward a little bit (your feet are still on the ground holding you!  You are only inching forward an inch or two!), then pull the clutch back in, and use your feet to roll yourself back to where you were when you started.  Keep doing this until you feel comfortable with the clutch.  Sometimes, you can let the clutch out without enough gas, and the motor will start to feel like it's gonna stall- that's ok, just keep your feet planted, and pull the clutch back in.

I've seen more that one newbie (and also add myself to this list) have trouble when first starting out- the clutch consumes your thoughts!  One goof on the clutch, and the motor stops, stops the bike in it's tracks, panic ensues, and the bike falls over.  This is how I learned to avoid this panic/loss of control.  I guess I added this post here, thinking it was kinda my mental training wheels!

Jason

[supersport_CB400F]

If you intend going fast around corners get the bars I’ve seen a couple of guys fall off the 750’s trying to keep up with me on my 400 in my mirrors  ….but seriously those things done more damage to my 400 engine and frame than they saved …I’ll take my chances without then now 

[Terry in Australia]

Yeah, you know anything can still get cracked or broken, but if it just bends in and tweaks yer points cover instead of munching part of the motor casing, man that's a big difference to me cause Terry always wants to buy the wrecks here. Haha ! 

So Doc, mate, how much do you want for that nasty ol' k8? Ooh #$%*, here comes the wife, gotta go!