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I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« on: May 18, 2006, 02:17:26 PM »
I'm pissed off guys, after 6.5 years without a negative, I got my first today. Back in March I bought (and paid for by electronic funds transfer through my bank) an item from an Ebay store here in Oz, and never received the item. After numerous unanswered messages, they finally got back to me and said they never received payment?

I gave them all the payment details, and told them that the money had gone through to their bank, but heard no more. I eventually filed an "item paid for, but not received" with Ebay, but the seller didn't respond, so Ebay just closed off the dispute.

Last night I left them negative feedback, as I believe I am entitled after trying to do the right thing by them for over two months, and guess what? So did they! They've had 45 neutrals and 18 negatives in the last 12 months, I've had 3 neutrals and now 1 negative (undeserved) in 6.5 years, but it doesn't matter, it sits there like a festering sore, spoiling my otherwise excellent reputation. What do I do to remove this blight on my good name men? Where do I go from here? Not happy, Terry. >:( (p.s., I'm netscrounger on Ebay)
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2006, 02:26:44 PM »
What was their defense when you proved that the electronic payment went through? Kind of difficult to argue that one.
About the only bad eBay experience I had was when a fellow claimed he never got the MO I sent to the business. I went to the bank and within 3 days I had a copy of the MO and his signature on it, endorsing it and therefore cashing it. He claimed he "must have gotten it mixed up with another  -sorry"

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2006, 02:38:32 PM »
It happens....
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2006, 02:55:32 PM »
Terry,

Put the non delivered item up on ebay - in your description try to sell this item on ebay, then state that you don't have to pay for this as he/they have already been paid and they are not honest ebayer's..., just pay you and the
put in a $0.01 start price with the hidden reserve of what you lost...

Just in case you didn't want to mention it this is their ebay name
http://feedback.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=ozmestore1&iid=5666836104&frm=284

They are some serious wheels for your new toy Terry

Seriously,, I would take the option of sending them a nice letter pointing out the facts with copies of your bank statement/ transfer, and keep hounding them until you get your money back..

Keep at it, they may give in...





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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2006, 05:03:04 PM »
Thanks guys, when I messaged them via Ebay and gave them the payment details they ignored the messages, and when Ebay attempted to contact them, they ignored Ebay too. They've ignored maybe 6 messages I've sent them, in fact the only time they replied was when I left them negative feedback, the scum sucking pigs!

I'll try 750goes trick and put the items on Ebay (by the way they were for my engine lift) and say lots of nasty things about them in the description. I did think about creating a false Ebay ID and bidding on everything, winning it all - but not paying for any of it, but I don't want to get in the #$%* and I'm not sure that I wouldn't be found out?

I've already written the money off, but I'd like to have that negative removed, and at the same time burn their store down with them in it! Cheers, Terry. :P
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2006, 06:14:49 PM »
Terry, just direct people to the feed back left by Objectionableone and there should be no problems.  :)

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2006, 06:31:04 PM »
Terry, just direct people to the feed back left by Objectionableone and there should be no problems.  :)

Thanks for that mate, it was very nice of you. How's that beautiful RC bike going? Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2006, 06:57:21 PM »
I too have had a few of these A-Holes.

This is why I pay through paypal. If they are a big player, paypal will scab the money out of their account the second any money gets in there. And there is not a damn thing they can do about it. Looking at my feedback it is clear that I NEVER back off of anyone for any reason. So people who look at feedback before bidding know they are dealing with the real deal. I WILL fight back.

Terry you can go back and make a followup comment on your feedback and state that his feedback is retaliatory. No one likes this. But it does give you the chance to give him the final ass burning.  ;D

Plus when they #$%* on me I do a quick 20 easy quick sales and then they do just like #$%* does, slide away.  ;D
« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 07:05:56 PM by ElCheapo »

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2006, 07:06:04 PM »
I know the undeserved negative feedback rankles, but I guess I wouldn't worry about it too much.  When I look at a buyer or a seller's rating and see 98 or 99 % positive, with one negative, I figure they have just run into one of the inevitable dick wads that are out there.  The fact that they have your money is another matter.  Kneecapping is called for.
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2006, 07:17:40 PM »
It would seem you fell into a Lurk mate. You have 330 feedbacks which are almost all positive. It is a pimple on your arse and it will pass. It is more of an ego thing than any real damage.  When you see a bidder that has 11 negatives in the past six months, you have to reckon this is shonky crew. I would say that short of sending the a box of bondi cigars to them each week, you are SOL.
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2006, 08:00:58 PM »
Terry,

I know you'll feel better when you get that nice set of carbs !!  Whats the plan for them?

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2006, 08:22:56 PM »
Terry,
Sorry to hear to hear of the problems with the A##hole!

I've always felt that if eBay really gave a crap and wasn't all about proft that it would come up with a better (i.e. honest) scheme for feedback and for the locations of sellers. It always pisses me of when some f###wad in Nigeria can pretend to be from Ohio and get away with it. The average Joe can't even get an acount without confirming and reconfirming his identity, presenting all of his bank acount , credit card info and offering up his first born.

Venting over! Having said all of the above.. I'm going with Cheapo on this one... let them slide off like #hit on a hot tin roof!

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2006, 08:49:29 PM »
Terry, sorry to hear about your problem.... now it's payback time...
If knee capping is out, how about using their email account name and signing them up to every porn site going, I'm sure they will enjoy the deluge of crap that arrives.
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2006, 08:54:54 PM »
Terry,

I know you'll feel better when you get that nice set of carbs !!  Whats the plan for them?

Jerry

G'Day Mate, thanks for that, well the carbs are for my racer project, but Carpy emailed me to tell me pretty much not to bother dreaming about them, because one of his big time buds in the US is gonna bid 1500 bucks for them?

Hmmnnn, I emailed him back and said "Yep, he is gonna pay 1500 for them, because now that I know, I'm setting my max bid to 1499!" I haven't heard back from him yet, but I guess he's using a snipe program anyway, so I'm not holding out much hope, sadly. Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2006, 08:56:16 PM »
Terry, sorry to hear about your problem.... now it's payback time...
If knee capping is out, how about using their email account name and signing them up to every porn site going, I'm sure they will enjoy the deluge of crap that arrives.

Thanks mate! Keep those nasty ideas coming, I really wanna pay them back ten-fold! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2006, 09:00:27 PM »
Terry, sorry to hear about your problem.... now it's payback time...
If knee capping is out, how about using their email account name and signing them up to every porn site going, I'm sure they will enjoy the deluge of crap that arrives.

Thanks mate! Keep those nasty ideas coming, I really wanna pay them back ten-fold! Cheers, Terry. ;D

If we all took the time to submit atleast 10 that were not repeating. This guy would be buried in #$%*e until god only knows when.  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2006, 09:10:17 PM »
If you can get his mailing address circulated around, I've got a whole list of really boring trade publications that we could inundate his mailbox with!

Any chance for a phone number, there are a lot of really motivated people in India who would love to talk to him.

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2006, 09:39:49 PM »
i had a similar problem terry, the seller was DUKE77.. bought parts, and after 6 weeks waiting sent them a mail, no reply, so it got to the point that i had missed the bout with filing a claim, so left bad feedback, that very day i got bad feedback... for apparently lieing to them, and not paying, then they said they had sent it, and it was lost, well if that was the case insurence should pay, ask for the shipping number... still havent heard back, but the rear disc i bought comes up on ebay about every two months!!!!! he is a scumbag, BTW read all the neg feedbacks for your bloke... there is a pattern there .....  i hate ebay sometimes.... by the way get a spam email program, and overload his ebay net account!!!!   that would make sellin stuff hard..Ppeace
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2006, 09:47:22 PM »
Thanks guys, I'll get their number and email address so you can all have some fun with them. Keep up the good ideas, I don't care about the money, I really just want to screw them over completely! In fact, I might contact all the other pissed off negative feedback-ers and pass your information onto them. Vendetta! Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2006, 10:15:04 PM »
I am offline untill next Tuesday so try to keep this one alive, alternatlivly PM his email address to me. >:(

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2006, 10:18:49 PM »
nothing like a good vendetta to get the blood flowing, esp after a couple of beers. As a side note, a couple of weeks ago some arsehole stole my pub bike as I was washing away er hard days work. The next thursday I returned with a nice poster(caution thieves operate here on a thursday night) and pinned it up where the group of wankers hang out. I got some interesting feedback from that, and a new bike :)  
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2006, 12:42:04 AM »
All the interesting stuff happens when I'm asleep!

Sorry to hear of your neg Terry, as you know, they can only be withdrawn mutually.

I felt the same when I got my first neutral - I posted about it here and got loads of support from the guys.
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2006, 01:39:50 AM »
Yeap, it hurts. I have about 500 positive and 3 negative. It really doesn't count much. On the contrary, a perfect score it something to be suspicious about, at least in my opinion.

I posted here recently about it. I got two negative feedback in retaliation of two positive I gave, though I didn't want to complete the transaction because the seller was trying to rip me off with postage. when I contacted him, he told me (verbatim) "#$%* U idiot". That pissed me off much  more than the negatives.

I had a secondary account, so I instantly bid on his items -unfortunately, an account with few feedback can bid up to a maximum of five articles-. My purpose was to win and leave negative feedback. He found strange than a newbie was bidding more than 400 sterling pounds on his items, found the trick and cancel my bids.

I told him that my new purpose in life was to give him four negative feedback, and as revenge is a cold dish, he could rest assured that I would do. So Terry, open two new accounts, and buy some items with them. There are even auctions in which nothing is sold, just feedback exchange. Once you have the feedback, in the last minute bid one thousand dollars, and with the second account bid one thousand and one dollars. Therefore, the final price will be one thousand and they will have to pay fees accordingly. Vote negative in the very moment. They can have the negative removed and the fees returned, but it will mean a lot of hassle with eBay. Do it until you get tired and they return the money. Tell them -outside eBay- that you are going to spoil all their auctions from now on.

The seller I talked about had recently changed the name. No problem, I'm tracking him so he will never know when will I be there. I had another negative before, and though I also believe it was undeserved, it was a misunderstanding so I didn't see bad intention on the seller. That's the difference.

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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2006, 04:33:41 AM »
message to diary..... don't piss off Raul.
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Re: I got my first Negative feedback on Ebay today
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2006, 04:46:16 AM »
message to diary..... don't piss off Raul.

You are allowed to piss me off, but not to insult me. eBay is a marketplace; difference of opinions are allowed, but not personal insult


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