Author Topic: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease  (Read 2236 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline sedna

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Howdy!
Hey, so this is my first winter with my '75 CB750 here in the Northwest and I am new to riding & wrenching in general. But I'm learning as I go (on both accounts!). I am also sadly without garage (currently trying to remedy this situation) and my bike sat out in the monsoon the last couple weeks (nearly six inches of rain in ONE DAY!  :'() now it doesn't want to start. I've gotten it going a couple times but it just won't keep running. It felt like when you run out of gas, roll on the throttle and don't get anything back.

So, from my reading on the forum I've taken the points cover off to check for moisture. Didn't find anything. I also took the covers off the spark plugs but didn't notice any water in there either. What else should I try? The other bit is that I have about a quarter tank of gas in the tank right now. A guy told me last night that I ought to dump it out and put some sea foam in it. Yes? No?

Would you all mind offering up some tips that I could try? I would really appreciate it.
'75 CB750K

Offline phil71

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,813
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 12:42:05 PM »
if it was uncovered and in very heavy rain, you'd be surprised how long it could take for points to dry off. Leave the cover off awhile, and maybe hit it with a hair dryer. Also, look in your oil tank. If you see any milky traces, get your oil changed immediately.. and finally, if you did get water in your tank, it would be great to drain it, but if it's outside your skill set, I'd just add fresh gas and some sta-bil to help evap the water off.
Good luck to you!

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 12:59:56 PM »
Howdy!
Hey, so this is my first winter with my '75 CB750 here in the Northwest and I am new to riding & wrenching in general. But I'm learning as I go (on both accounts!). I am also sadly without garage (currently trying to remedy this situation) and my bike sat out in the monsoon the last couple weeks (nearly six inches of rain in ONE DAY!  :'() now it doesn't want to start. I've gotten it going a couple times but it just won't keep running. It felt like when you run out of gas, roll on the throttle and don't get anything back.

So, from my reading on the forum I've taken the points cover off to check for moisture. Didn't find anything. I also took the covers off the spark plugs but didn't notice any water in there either. What else should I try? The other bit is that I have about a quarter tank of gas in the tank right now. A guy told me last night that I ought to dump it out and put some sea foam in it. Yes? No?

Would you all mind offering up some tips that I could try? I would really appreciate it.
Do you have the petcock set on reserve? 1/4 tank may be awful close to reserve, and if the bike is leaning or has been leaning in the wrong direction, it may be ... out of gas.

I don't know why you would want to dump it. The tank lid should seal it fine from the elements. If anything I'd put some more in. SeaFoam can't hurt, and some stabil as mentioned. If it has water in the tank, more likely from condensation than the rain. You'll want to stir it up and dilute it.

Of course draining it out the petcock and refilling can't hurt anything i guess.
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

bollingball

  • Guest
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 01:19:02 PM »
No pods I hope? WD40 works good on wet electrics :) I keep a small can in my tool bag on trips has got me going a couple of time they make a small can looks like a sample 3 or 4 oz.

                                  Ken

Offline chewbacca5000

  • I polish covers!
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,536
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 02:09:03 PM »
After you get her dried out I would pull a spark plug an lay it on top of the valve cover and see if you have spark.  You'll need an deep 18mm socket and a ratchet.  See if it sparks chances are it will since you said you have had it going, but won't stay running.  Also, give it a little choke and let it warm up really good before roll on of throttle.

I'd also take your left side cover off and check out the rest of your electrics for corrosion from the rain.  It's a good think to do anyway make sure all your electrics are clean.  Any green corrosion in the connectors needs to go.  A small amount of rolled up 400 grit sandpaper and electric contact cleaner will make contacts as good as new.

Offline WarwickE36

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 761
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 03:27:08 PM »
Quote
Do you have the petcock set on reserve? 1/4 tank may be awful close to reserve, and if the bike is leaning or has been leaning in the wrong direction, it may be ... out of gas.

+1
" Why does anyone get offended by what someone does to their own bike? I dont get it. "

You made me think about it after I cheered knowing someone else would like to know what these control freaks are up to.
 Every time any owner strips whatever precious Honda part the horrified purists parts go up in value. That's not the part that bothers them.
 What bothers them is they sat up late at night, their breast full of wonder and estrogen, unable to sleep, dreaming about their lovely darling and all her glory... and next thing you know someone else doesn't share their emotional deluge and their reaction is they must spread their mind museum as far as they possibly can, taking over as much of the real world as possible.

Drink fast, drive slow, but ride it like you stole it

1974 Cb550 with style
2004 SV650s

Offline sedna

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 03:40:45 PM »
Well, thank you all for you ideas! I had to add two gallons of gas to fill it up so it wasn't totally empty but it was getting close-ish. Anyway, I also added some Sea Foam and bam, started right up. Magic! The idle sounds a lot better too. Hmm.

A couple days of good riding weather approach and I'm a happy lady! Thanks again.  :D
'75 CB750K

Offline WarwickE36

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 761
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 03:42:48 PM »
Funny how running it out of gas feels like its running out of gas  ;D  ride on
" Why does anyone get offended by what someone does to their own bike? I dont get it. "

You made me think about it after I cheered knowing someone else would like to know what these control freaks are up to.
 Every time any owner strips whatever precious Honda part the horrified purists parts go up in value. That's not the part that bothers them.
 What bothers them is they sat up late at night, their breast full of wonder and estrogen, unable to sleep, dreaming about their lovely darling and all her glory... and next thing you know someone else doesn't share their emotional deluge and their reaction is they must spread their mind museum as far as they possibly can, taking over as much of the real world as possible.

Drink fast, drive slow, but ride it like you stole it

1974 Cb550 with style
2004 SV650s

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 03:48:02 PM »
Ta da!

Glad it was easy.

The gas started it, but the SeaFoam probably cleaned up the idle. Cleans plugs, carbs etc.

Now that you've been introduced to SeaFoam, use it in gas and oil as maintenance per label.
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline DavePhipps

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,150
  • Reading the entire Hi-Perf forum
    • Hillside Technology
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 05:14:20 PM »
Just in case you're a nutjob like me and ride in the rain all the time using dialetrict grease inside the plug caps helps.
Bikes:
90 FZR600 RA
74 CB550k
78 GL1000
72 CB500K

Offline CoachDoc

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 615
  • 1974 CB550, 2005 GL1800, 1997 Valkyrie Standard
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 06:57:52 PM »
Could be your plug wires are getting close to the end of their useful life insofar as they may be affected by rainwater, increasing the resistance and making starting hard. My bike used to have 1 and 4 die when riding in the rain. If I pulled over and ran it for a few minutes on 2,3 the engine heat would dry the leads out and all 4 would fire for a while. The problem went away when I put new plug leads all around. I'm thinking your wires may have just needed time to dry out.

Offline mrbreeze

  • Not your average
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,902
  • Shut up when you're talkin' to me!!
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 08:05:58 PM »
Sea Foam is the bomb fer sure. Next time (hopefully not) that happens.............drain the carb bowls into a small container and you can see if water is in the gas. They don't run or run real crappy on water. The points is another bad place to have water. Even if it all looks dry........shoot some WD40 into the points plate. Glad ya got it runnin'............ride on!!!
MEMBER # 257
Fool me once..shame on you. Fool me twice..I'm kickin' your a$$......

Offline bryanj

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,993
  • CB500 Number 1000036
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 06:59:35 AM »
Honda plug wires were affected by rain straight from the factory, at least here in UK they were! carry some WD 40 or other such water repelant as you can, and liberaly spray the coils, plug wire, plugs and point assembly if it's raining
Semi Geriatric ex-Honda mechanic and MOT tester (UK version of annual inspection). Garage full of "projects" mostly 500/4 from pre 73 (no road tax in UK).

Remember "Its always in the last place you look" COURSE IT IS YOU STOP LOOKIN THEN!

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 34,290
  • Central Texas
Re: Help a water logged girl and her bike get back on the road! pllllleeeease
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 07:26:20 AM »
First off welcome!  Glad you ot it running and hope you secured a garage. We love pics here, so post a couple when you get a chance.
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........