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Saving a Tree from death
« on: December 06, 2011, 07:24:36 PM »
Way off the motorcycle path. But I had such good results I wanted to share. We have a maple tree that is just right for its space, beautiful shade and fall color. I had it trimmed many years ago, and the trimmer, unbeknownst to me, didn't cut the two lowest branches properly. But it cold have been from storm damage, etc. They developed knot holes, which were getting bigger and bigger, you could push a tennis ball thru them, and i knew they weren't good for the tree. One on each side 180° apart about 7' up.

Looking it up on the internet, i found that the old idea of filling the holes has been determined to do as much harm as good. I found this advice: drill two holes at a 45° angle into the hole from below. these ended up being about 8 inches long, took a "spade" bit to get it done. It was mid summer and no recent rain. A soon as I finished the holes, water began to run out! It continued to drain for nearly a day.  Then I covered each hole with a shield to keep more water from coming in. Just some aluminum flashing, painted brown and stapled to the tree, regular construction type staple gun.

After a few years I just checked under the shields and the holes were nearly closed up. Could hardly put a pencil thru the hole now. The tree had grown, healed the holes back up. So this tree should last out its lifetime.

Scars from the drain holes

Cover over the hole. Bottom left open so it can breath without getting rain in the know hole.

I think I would have lost it without intervention.
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 07:34:59 PM »
Good job, you have now achieved tree hugger status! 
Kidding aside, glad to hear you saved it, would have been sad to lose such a beautiful tree.
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 07:35:16 PM »
Good job MC!  It is a beautiful tree.
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 07:39:32 PM »
Great job!!!!!!
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2011, 08:26:57 PM »
Trees are full of life...thanks for keeping it's integrity solid.
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 11:25:46 AM »
Cover over the hole. Bottom left open so it can breath without getting rain in the know hole.

good job,,is it the tree of knowledge?

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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 11:27:44 AM »
Cover over the hole. Bottom left open so it can breath without getting rain in the know hole.

good job,,is it the tree of knowledge?

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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 12:07:20 PM »
Hippie  :P
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 07:16:49 PM »
Very nice!
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 10:29:27 PM »
So, now that I know it can be done wrong, what's the correct way to trim a tree?
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 10:32:42 PM »
So, now that I know it can be done wrong, what's the correct way to trim a tree?

Hire a certified arborist!
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 11:09:52 PM »
SAVE A TREE!!!! ... EAT A BEAVER!!!!
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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 11:35:29 PM »
save a mouse,eat a pussy?

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Re: Saving a Tree from death
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 06:57:10 AM »
So, now that I know it can be done wrong, what's the correct way to trim a tree?

Hire a certified arborist!
That's kind a like saying take your bike to a real Honda shop mechanic. While we'd like to say that's the fix, the results may be mixed.

I had hired a certified arborist. When I first bought this property, there were several large trees that the PO had let go. The one in question had two large low branches that were reaching into the driveway and parking area and would actually hit the cars. You couldn't walk under them. If you'll note the unnatural but pretty ball shape of the tree. It was trimmed all over. Along with 4 other larger trees. He also took down a 5 foot diameter Sycamore and a lot of other work.

So when he brought the cherry picker and 6 man crew in, somebody got to those branches and did what's called a "flush cut". Cut the branch off flush with tree trunk. This leaves a really nice looking result to the untrained eye, but ultimately results in a knothole, which results in decay, an opening of the wound, infiltration of water and insects, and the death of the tree, it took about 4 years for the knotholes to appear and 4 more before i decided to do anything about it. Hired another certified arborist. He pointed out to me what had happened, and surprisingly, didn't have much to say about fixing it other than confirming what i had found on the internet: don't fill it with anything, and confirmed the drilling of drain holes.

He went on to fix some other tree problems. He was more interested in some big ticket tree removal issues I had.  I took over the Maple tree. I read about covering the wound and letting it heal, made the covers.

They say when you have a medical problem, don't trust your doctor if they aren't fixing the problem. Keep shopping around and reading till you find an answer. That's what i do.

Here's some info on pruning. The proper way leaves a bump of the "collar", which is unattractive, but healthy.
http://na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/howtos/ht_prune/cuts.htm
Click on "next" to the page that shows the wrong way to do it.  As the article says, you can't judge the efficacy of the cut until next year!
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