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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2011, 11:36:14 pm »
Some old photos that do belong here.





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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2011, 07:40:13 am »
we should all have one of those under our work bench

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2011, 08:54:03 am »
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2011, 01:01:56 pm »
That's funny...someone emailed me today with a set. I'm thinking new technology unless that is the best rod I can get my hands on. Maybe BME.
That's funny...someone emailed me today with a set. I'm thinking new technology unless that is the best rod I can get my hands on. Maybe BME.

I think that just because the other 7 rods are intact doesn't mean they are not highly fatigued. Check with these people. They are on top of the game. They are doing all of the rods that the nitro Harley guys are using.  http://www.grpconrods.com/

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2011, 02:09:35 pm »
Some old photos that do belong here.







How recent are the photos and who is the lucky guy?
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2011, 03:17:36 pm »


How recent are the photos and who is the lucky guy?
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I don't know who that guy is.
Maybe RC could shed some light on that one.

These were some photos that I dug up somewhere a while ago (possibly on the net) after a couple of young fellas who like to tinker with motorcycle engines, were asking about the RC phenomenon.
I was thinking that nothing could be more educational and inspirational than something like this.

Somewhere, somebody wrote that when AT&SF was launched, it was like a shot that could be heard around the world.
That put a huge  ;D  8)  ;D  8)  on their faces.
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2011, 04:36:36 pm »
Welcome,  this is going to be a great thread to follow. History revisited 8)...Larry

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2011, 06:17:25 pm »
That's funny...someone emailed me today with a set. I'm thinking new technology unless that is the best rod I can get my hands on. Maybe BME.
That's funny...someone emailed me today with a set. I'm thinking new technology unless that is the best rod I can get my hands on. Maybe BME.

I think that just because the other 7 rods are intact doesn't mean they are not highly fatigued. Check with these people. They are on top of the game. They are doing all of the rods that the nitro Harley guys are using.  http://www.grpconrods.com/

Jay

Thanks Jay...that's my thinking...all new bullets and rods. Sources like that may be just the ticket.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2011, 06:20:54 pm »
Some old photos that do belong here.






This pretty much how the triple looks right now....in fact it is on the same dolly under my bench/ place of honor. It's very distracting as I toil over the other project..it's just begging to run off to a chassis shop!

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2011, 08:51:48 am »
Fantastic Project!  Resurrecting a LEGEND!!

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2011, 09:04:20 am »
Call me dumb, but I'd rather you just call me young  ;)

What happened to the rest of the bike?  Crash?  Past its prime and scrapped for other projects?  Stolen?
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2011, 09:19:45 am »
Here ya go Heff,  http://www.rceng.com/history.aspx

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #62 on: December 14, 2011, 09:45:01 am »
Thanks, Sam.. I had figured that was it's demise, but the powerplant seems unscathed. 
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #63 on: December 14, 2011, 09:48:17 am »
That's OK young un, you're much to young to know about these things ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #64 on: December 14, 2011, 10:01:51 am »
I'm just taking a guess here and its all by the look of the motors... were the fins ground down to shave weight?  They look much thicker on the edges than normal and that is what I'm thinking is the reason.
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #65 on: December 14, 2011, 07:37:24 pm »
Drag bike....not to worried about air cooling and we need the room...that is 3 motors that need to be very close together..my dad is 5'7" tall...coincidentally...so I am I.

Needed the room for plumbing, headers etc....Bike below....you see the length issue!



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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2011, 07:49:52 pm »
 Do you know who built the original frames fopr A,T, &SF..and the Sorcerer  ?

 Who is doing the new one and will it look like the old one?
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2011, 08:16:28 pm »
Did you ever see the pre-photoshop rendition of the 5 engine ATS? It was really well done and fooled a lot of people. Really stretched ole Russ out.  :D

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #68 on: December 15, 2011, 07:22:58 am »
Had to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving me ;)
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2011, 10:52:00 am »
I went out and checked under my bench. nope, just a couple old powerglides.
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #70 on: December 15, 2011, 07:17:56 pm »
Do you know who built the original frames fopr A,T, &SF..and the Sorcerer  ?

 Who is doing the new one and will it look like the old one?

Everything will be restored to the original look...we will cheat a little for reliability and safety but you will not know the difference.

Don Long built the Sorcerer chassis....very nice work...Google him...he's the Man.

I can't recall who built the triple chassis..I have a pretty good guess but I do not want to insult anyone. I do remember pushing on the TIG peddle while my Dad was welding on that thing. I spent a lot of summer nights in that shop in Gardena working with him.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2011, 07:29:30 pm »
Awesome. this isn't a thread, its a history lesson..... ;)
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« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2011, 07:52:17 pm »
Awesome. this isn't a thread, its a history lesson..... ;)


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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2011, 08:30:39 pm »
That's funny...someone emailed me today with a set. I'm thinking new technology unless that is the best rod I can get my hands on. Maybe BME.
That's funny...someone emailed me today with a set. I'm thinking new technology unless that is the best rod I can get my hands on. Maybe BME.

I think that just because the other 7 rods are intact doesn't mean they are not highly fatigued. Check with these people. They are on top of the game. They are doing all of the rods that the nitro Harley guys are using.  http://www.grpconrods.com/

Jay

Thanks Jay...that's my thinking...all new bullets and rods. Sources like that may be just the ticket.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2011, 10:22:57 pm »
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