Author Topic: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored (Read 487108 times)

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #75 on:** December 16, 2011, 12:47:43 AM »

Quote from: BLUE71TURBO on December 15, 2011, 10:22:57 PM

OK all of you R.C. ENGINEERING fans, here's your chance to own a piece of historic memorabilia !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-race-banner-drag-race-rc-engineering-dragbike-k0-cb750-/180777096252?hash=item2a1727943c&item=180777096252&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Jon, check out reply #40 in this thread, banner in our trailer.
Perhaps we should keep an eye on the selling price, might be worth repro-ing them.

Sam.

mick7504 · « **Reply #76 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:55:39 AM »

Is there any footage of The Assassin, A,T&SF or The Sorcerer on the strip?

Russ, Is this your Dad mate?

http://youtu.be/59WtrQaXmn4

sorcerer · « **Reply #77 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:30:48 PM »

No footage of Assassin...before VCR's and the like, None I"ve seen of the Triple but I'll bet there are some home movies out there...I'd love to get copy of. The Sorcerer was featured in a movie "Take it to the Limit" by Peter Starr....very cool stuff....

And finally, yes that is my Dad driving for Bill Miller...although this is not his favorite footage...lol. but I do love how collected my Dad was after jumping out of that seat...he knew I was at the starting line and I think he wanted everyone to see he was OK. I was thinking "Last Rights" from where I was standing. That was a very long 20 seconds!

They are good friends and my Dad drove that car for approx 5+ yrs I believe. Fastest Chevy on the planet! (Arias Motored)

sorcerer · « **Reply #78 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:36:08 PM »

Quote from: SamCB750A on December 16, 2011, 12:47:43 AM

Quote from: BLUE71TURBO on December 15, 2011, 10:22:57 PM
OK all of you R.C. ENGINEERING fans, here's your chance to own a piece of historic memorabilia !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-race-banner-drag-race-rc-engineering-dragbike-k0-cb750-/180777096252?hash=item2a1727943c&item=180777096252&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Hell....if that's what the banner is worth ..what do you think the running version of the Sorcerer would bring?....and no it's not for sale.

Jon, check out reply #40 in this thread, banner in our trailer.
Perhaps we should keep an eye on the selling price, might be worth repro-ing them.

Sam.

BLUE71TURBO · « **Reply #79 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:14:37 PM »

Quote from: SamCB750A on December 16, 2011, 12:47:43 AM

Quote from: BLUE71TURBO on December 15, 2011, 10:22:57 PM
OK all of you R.C. ENGINEERING fans, here's your chance to own a piece of historic memorabilia !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-race-banner-drag-race-rc-engineering-dragbike-k0-cb750-/180777096252?hash=item2a1727943c&item=180777096252&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Jon, check out reply #40 in this thread, banner in our trailer.
Perhaps we should keep an eye on the selling price, might be worth repro-ing them.

Sam.

Yes, that would be a great idea for RC jr. For a reasonable price to help fund the operation of the dragbikes.

IDEA ! How about having RC SENIOR and RC jr autograph them for a little bit more $$$ !
OH YEA !!

With today's technology an updated picture or pictures would be great. Left side- RC jr standing with arms crossed. Right side- new picture of motorcycle. I can see it now ......hanging in the bedroom.

If the ole lady will let me ! LOL ! OH ! OH ! How about some 8x 10 glossy pictures autographed !
Say...$ 25.oo ? I'd be 1st in line !!

OOOOOH ! SHIRTS !!!! GOTTA HAVE SHIRTS !!!!!

mick7504 · « **Reply #80 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:15:44 PM »

Quote from: sorcerer on December 16, 2011, 07:30:48 PM

No footage of Assassin...before VCR's and the like, None I"ve seen of the Triple but I'll bet there are some home movies out there...I'd love to get copy of. The Sorcerer was featured in a movie "Take it to the Limit" by Peter Starr....very cool stuff....

And finally, yes that is my Dad driving for Bill Miller...although this is not his favorite footage...lol. but I do love how collected my Dad was after jumping out of that seat...he knew I was at the starting line and I think he wanted everyone to see he was OK. I was thinking "Last Rights" from where I was standing. That was a very long 20 seconds!

They are good friends and my Dad drove that car for approx 5+ yrs I believe. Fastest Chevy on the planet! (Arias Motored)

When I showed that footage to my wife (who thinks that race cars and bikes in general are just "Boys stuff") she said "Gee, look how calm that man is"
That was a highlight for her.

sorcerer · « **Reply #81 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:30:47 PM »

70 4spd SS396 numbers car I have been working on for 7 years to get it to be a show winner, 10 trophy's later and it does not look as exciting as a ride on fuel bike ...does it?

Although, rowing through the gears with 450hp big block on the back roads has it's upside.

This is what's on the block if I cannot pull in some sponsor assistance.....just bought a house...got a few too many toys and then my Dad gives me these old race bikes to restore all in the same month.

I've got Killer marketing help...but in these times no telling what will shake out. So this car is my ace in the hole...probably could get both bikes done.

BLUE71TURBO · « **Reply #82 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:45:39 PM »

Sell it at BARRET JACKSON auctions in Scottsdale. I believe it's next month. I think you'll regret it though.
I restored a 1971 SS454 El Camino and sold it at route 66 here in San Bernardino where i live. I regret it every day.

This is at Norton AFB in San Bernardino when we could dragrace on a portion of the air strip. Fun times.

sorcerer · « **Reply #83 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:58:58 PM »

Yep ..I'm sure right...it will be a last resort.

We have a very nice Cruise Night in Escondido just miles from home and I have not missed a Friday night in years. It runs for 6 months during daylight savings. We also have Nitro night at the same venue and what would be more cool than a running Sorcerer. All the 60's and 70's drag cars show up....you should see the stuff the Snake shows up with.....his shop is nearby.

Like those colors on your camino

754 · « **Reply #84 on:** December 16, 2011, 09:30:25 PM »

RCjr, how old were you when your Dad crashed the triple ?...musta scared the crap outa the family when it happened...

one of the times we rode our 750s to California we stopped by the RC shop, went around the corner to the back alley, the door of the shop (behind RC ENG)was open..they were loading headers into a van.. most of what we could see inside the shop was all pipes.. hundreds of them..

.. always remembered that...

mick7504 · « **Reply #85 on:** December 16, 2011, 10:07:57 PM »

Apologies in advance for the 2 second tease.

This is all I can find at the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/SjxVWeblpGI

Jim F · « **Reply #86 on:** December 17, 2011, 07:11:06 AM »

Hey Russ,

why not set something up threw paypal and let all of us that love these old bike give a little (or a lot)
to help with the restoration of the SOHC top fuel bikes that we all love.
and Sam if this ridiculous please delete.

Just something to think about

Jim

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #87 on:** December 17, 2011, 09:42:07 AM »

Good idea Jimmy, I could start a sticky thread if Russ thinks it will help.

Sam.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #88 on:** December 17, 2011, 02:42:05 PM »

Quote from: SamCB750A on December 17, 2011, 09:42:07 AM

Good idea Jimmy, I could start a sticky thread if Russ thinks it will help.

Sam.

I think for some, this may already be a sticky thread.....

sorcerer · « **Reply #89 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:09:50 PM »

I'm honored that some of you feel this worthy of passing the hat...but I just need to suck it up and lighten up on the toys perhaps.

Just after the holidays.... we will be putting together some marketing plans that will be aimed at the big money advertising. You know the players...energy drinks, etc...

Do all of you have this illness?

I call this my wall of flame.

This poorly taken photo is of a poster from a German Magazine...guy flew in from over there and we had only run the bike in the back alley...1st professional shot mt Dad hated it (cuz the bike wasn't ready etc...) so i got it
right out of the magazine when it hit his desk. I'm sure I have the only one framed like a Picasso..if there are any left at all.

And as promised some recently cleaned up Sorcerer parts...hey it's a start!

sorcerer · « **Reply #90 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:22:04 PM »

Quote from: 754 on December 16, 2011, 09:30:25 PM

RCjr, how old were you when your Dad crashed the triple ?...musta scared the crap outa the family when it happened...

one of the times we rode our 750s to California we stopped by the RC shop, went around the corner to the back alley, the door of the shop (behind RC ENG)was open..they were loading headers into a van.. most of what we could see inside the shop was all pipes.. hundreds of them.. .. always remembered that...

18 yrs old and in the Navy...didn't see him for months..he was a wreck. Stainless fingers and teflon knuckles just to mention a few of the new parts installed. He was drawing up some plans for the Sorcerer at the dining room table with the one good hand...couldn't even give him a hug he was so bad. He still feels the effects of that crash but seldom mentions it...sure didn't stop him from more TF bike and car racing!

And yes we built a lot of pipes... UPS was backing up Semi's at the peak.

RCjr.

cbr954 · « **Reply #91 on:** December 17, 2011, 03:30:18 PM »

Thanks for letting us be a part of the rebuilds of these bikes. I have seen them in my dads magazines for as long as I can remember. He built an RC 1000cc motor back in about 1974 that he street raced back in the day and have heard his stories about how good that thing ran. Would love to see them make it to Sturgis Ralley so my dad and I could see them in person, all we get are the nitro Harleys.

BLUE71TURBO · « **Reply #92 on:** December 17, 2011, 06:58:53 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on December 17, 2011, 02:42:05 PM

Quote from: SamCB750A on December 17, 2011, 09:42:07 AM
Good idea Jimmy, I could start a sticky thread if Russ thinks it will help.

Sam.

I think for some, this may already be a sticky thread.....

OH MY SIDE'S HURT !!

ThomasD883 · « **Reply #93 on:** December 17, 2011, 11:42:21 PM »

+1 On fund raising. I'm hooked here and would love to say that I had a part in bringing back these INCREDIBLE machines. Amazing stuff sorcerer, I'm checking on this one every morning . You're a good man, thanks for your efforts

. Happy holidays

Big Jay · « **Reply #94 on:** December 18, 2011, 12:04:19 AM »

I was fortunate enough to see both of them run, and the Battlestar.

ThomasD883 · « **Reply #95 on:** December 18, 2011, 12:33:55 AM »

I really can't imagine being there during the heyday. I really dug the russ Collins story after I stumbled across it in the hi-pi archives. I actually had his picture as my avatar before I read about him, I liked the look on his face , really inspiring. It's actually my work computer background where I do most of my fourm reading

.

H2Eric · « **Reply #96 on:** December 18, 2011, 02:58:08 AM »

Quote from: sorcerer on December 17, 2011, 03:09:50 PM

Do all of you have this illness?

I call this my wall of flame.

Hi Russ and a very warm welcome to the forum. Illness? Motorcycling in all its forms is a disease, probably a notifiable one at that. However, I'm pleased to say there is no known cure.
There are some great pictures here and like all the other members of this particular forum I shall be watching the restoration of your dad's bikes with great interest.
Cheers
Eric

cbr954 · « **Reply #97 on:** December 18, 2011, 07:24:09 AM »

Was wonder how the triple engine was phase together. Does cylinder 1 on all three engines fire at the same time or are the cranks phased at 120 deg apart? Do they use a common oil system?

sorcerer · « **Reply #98 on:** December 18, 2011, 11:08:55 AM »

Quote from: cbr954 on December 18, 2011, 07:24:09 AM

Was wonder how the triple engine was phase together. Does cylinder 1 on all three engines fire at the same time or are the cranks phased at 120 deg apart? Do they use a common oil system?

Phased cylinder firing and a common dry sump oiling system....really the only way to go with nitro.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #99 on:** December 18, 2011, 11:27:39 AM »

Wouldn't it be nice to see someone like Big Jay producing those pipes once again!

hint hint

Perhaps with your blessing RCjr and some of the proceeds going towards your efforts! Jay is a great sponsor for old and new racing. Sorry Jay but you are the man these days and I always seem to pester you to bring back your stuff

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Author Topic: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored (Read 487108 times)