Author Topic: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored  (Read 488573 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #275 on: February 18, 2012, 09:24:31 PM »
 Not sure what the forks go for but the remake leg assemblies, are 1000 Euros.

I cant ID those rotors or carriers, is there any closeup pics?, or in the articles on the bikes, does it  maybe shed some light on who made them?

 Did you ever find out who built the pipes on these bikes, they sure fit well..
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline Jim F

  • Need a bigger house for more toys
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,887
  • go baby go
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #276 on: February 19, 2012, 07:08:01 AM »
OK, so where do we send this money too?
Is Russ Jr going to set up a pay pal account or a general account to accept funds?
I just got in the shop, well I walked down stairs to my shop from my living room but,,,,,,,,,

Let me know where to send the bucks

Jim

tried my had at powder coating yesterday on my turbo build....................
fire engine red............wow

2002 RC51 1000 (SP2)
1983 GS1100EC Suzuki
2002 998 Dukati (Customers Bike)
1992 KTM500 2 stroke
1975 CB750/836 Honda
1978 GS750/840 Suzuki

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,725
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #277 on: February 19, 2012, 07:12:08 AM »
Pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 >:(not really),we wanna see! Bill
Wake up Sam,we need to know! ;)Also was reading article in Cycle,says they went from original 18" f/wheel to 19" for a little better weight transfer.Said it originally had dual set up,then single,then I guess back to dual at the end. Looked like original Honda 750 caliper on one pic of single setup.Wake up Sam!! ;)
« Last Edit: February 19, 2012, 08:42:22 AM by bellcow54 »
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

Offline FuZZie

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,222
  • If I is expert, I can has cheezburger?
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #278 on: February 19, 2012, 08:53:40 AM »
Quote
Is Russ Jr going to set up a pay pal account or a general account to accept funds?

If we could do this we may be able to keep PP's share a little lower they even take a bit on donations.  ::)

Offline Sam Green Racing

  • Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,068
  • I REALLY? hate black rims.
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #279 on: February 19, 2012, 10:53:19 AM »
I am awake guys, I've asked Russ for his Paypal account but he has not responded yet.

Sam. ;)
C95 sprint bike.
CB95 hybrid race bike
CB95 race bike
CB92
RS 175. sprint/land speed bike
JMR Racing CB750A street ET drag bike

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #280 on: February 19, 2012, 12:01:25 PM »
I am awake guys, I've asked Russ for his Paypal account but he has not responded yet.

Sam. ;)
Yeah, I'm ready. Be sure we find out how to get credit for the site being a sponsor. Too cool!
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline sorcerer

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 516
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #281 on: February 19, 2012, 01:35:42 PM »
I'm just going to share my email address with all..which I believe is how PP works.

russcollinsjr@yahoo.com

It's been years since I used their services...just used it for the first time in several yrs to donate to this site..took me quite a while to remember the password..lol ...almost started over.

RCjr.

Offline 736cc

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,724
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #282 on: February 19, 2012, 01:42:04 PM »
Here's a digitally enhanced and sharpened enlargement of the front wheel...I'm stumped as to the make of the rotor which appears to be liberally swiss-cheesed. Somebody ask Rickey-Racer, he's good at identifying esoteric retro bike parts.


« Last Edit: February 19, 2012, 01:56:53 PM by 736cc »

Offline 736cc

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,724
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #283 on: February 19, 2012, 01:55:32 PM »
I CAN'T WAIT to hear this iconic ultimate expression of motorcycle gearhead Yankee-ingenuity light-up.
They sure don't make 'em like this anymore.


Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,812
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #284 on: February 19, 2012, 02:28:22 PM »
The rim looks like its laced to a 4-bolt hub which was available from Honda CB200T and maybe  CB360G & T models in '75-'76.  I have a CB200T complete wheel in my garage.............If you need it I could donate for the cause.

Then someone cut a mounting disk for the 6-bolt Swiss-Cheese rotors. Based on the rather narrow trees, the hub had to be narrow to get the spoke clearance for the calipers. The rotors appear to be very close to the assumed counter-sunk flathead-srews holding the caliper plate and fork brace to the fork-leg mounts.  Very custom rotor and mounting disk for its time..........
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2020 ROYAL ENFIELD Himalayan

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,725
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #285 on: February 19, 2012, 03:16:15 PM »
Sure could be,a lot of drag racers used the little F/end off CB200T.Bill
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

Offline Retro Rocket

  • Eggs are hard due too a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,279
  • ROCK & ROLL
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #286 on: February 19, 2012, 03:27:48 PM »
Hmmm, i have a Hearst Airheart caliper in that shape, i'll have to pull it out and compare it, if its the same one i will donate it to the cause.... ;)
750 K2 1000cc
750 F1 970cc
750 Bitsa 900cc
If You can't fix it with a hammer, You've got an electrical problem.

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,725
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #287 on: February 19, 2012, 03:29:31 PM »
Retro,way cool.Russ check your paypal ;)money sent! ;D Good Luck,Bill
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

Offline mick7504

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,740
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #288 on: February 19, 2012, 03:41:54 PM »
Retro,way cool.Russ check your paypal ;)money sent! ;D Good Luck,Bill
Me too.
And best wishes & good luck Russ.  8)
Mick
If I was you
I'd be worried about me.

Offline Sam Green Racing

  • Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,068
  • I REALLY? hate black rims.
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #289 on: February 19, 2012, 04:01:38 PM »
Got both you and Billy Mick, see locked sticky thread.

Sam. ;)

Although Russ has made his Paypal details know, please PM me if you donate so that you can be added to the membership.
We still need to do some work on this.
C95 sprint bike.
CB95 hybrid race bike
CB95 race bike
CB92
RS 175. sprint/land speed bike
JMR Racing CB750A street ET drag bike

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,812
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #290 on: February 19, 2012, 04:49:07 PM »
Reference the front wheel hub............After further thought...........its not a CB200 because of the 40-spoke count.............more likely a Kawasaki hub and currently available on ebay.........search H1 or H2 or Z1
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2020 ROYAL ENFIELD Himalayan

Offline FuZZie

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,222
  • If I is expert, I can has cheezburger?
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #291 on: February 19, 2012, 05:09:23 PM »
Just sent mine too Sam!  8)

Offline Retro Rocket

  • Eggs are hard due too a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,279
  • ROCK & ROLL
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #292 on: February 19, 2012, 05:22:24 PM »
Ok, just had a look and the caliper i have is the correct one {as far as i can tell} the back side shown is identical to the one i have.... Can i have an address to send this too please.... ;)
750 K2 1000cc
750 F1 970cc
750 Bitsa 900cc
If You can't fix it with a hammer, You've got an electrical problem.

Offline Jim F

  • Need a bigger house for more toys
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,887
  • go baby go
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #293 on: February 19, 2012, 05:31:53 PM »
I sent mine too

I PMed Sam also about the details..............

Go Russ

Jim
2002 RC51 1000 (SP2)
1983 GS1100EC Suzuki
2002 998 Dukati (Customers Bike)
1992 KTM500 2 stroke
1975 CB750/836 Honda
1978 GS750/840 Suzuki

Offline MCRider

  • Such is the life of a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,376
  • Today's Lesson: One good turn deserves another.
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #294 on: February 19, 2012, 05:33:51 PM »
Mines been sent, PM to Sam.
Ride Safe:
Ron
1988 NT650 HawkGT;  1978 CB400 Hawk;  1975 CB750F -Free Bird; 1968 CB77 Super Hawk -Ticker;  Phaedrus 1972 CB750K2- Build Thread
"Sometimes the light's all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it appears to me, what a long, strange trip its been."

Offline sorcerer

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 516
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #295 on: February 19, 2012, 06:04:53 PM »
Gentlemen: Mr. Green, Hastings, Benton, Dison, and Debow all true lovers of things fast and very SOHC we are grateful and several others to boot. You are very much pressing home the importance of these Hall of Fame Hondas.

The gentlemen here locally, that will be working late hours to recreate some exotic pieces are inspired by you and they have their work cutout for them...inspiration goes a long way. They too have seen these run and just to hear them, is worth all the effort. 

I will get this all straight and well recorded, who is doing what...hard earned cash , and parts have been donated...this is not taken lightly.

Any one of you sponsors traveling through San Diego. please call on me...I'm buying lunch and you are welcome to review the process on these.

RCjr.

Offline sorcerer

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 516
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #296 on: February 19, 2012, 06:14:28 PM »
Here's a digitally enhanced and sharpened enlargement of the front wheel...I'm stumped as to the make of the rotor which appears to be liberally swiss-cheesed. Somebody ask Rickey-Racer, he's good at identifying esoteric retro bike parts.


I called my Dad today to check on the wife..all is well...so now about that wheel.

I reminded him that we used to take stock rotors from customers and drill and copper plate just like these...he laughed at not remembering...but I worked in shipping..duh..somethings the President is not made aware of.

He will be looking at some pics to try and source the 40 spoke hub. Those are Airheart calipers with RC made hangars.

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #297 on: February 19, 2012, 06:21:37 PM »
 The rotors look like HD from a single disc 73=76 FX and XL... except they are not 5 bolt.  Was PM in business then, their early rotors were usually mehanite (cast iron) My guess on the wheel hub is that it is a lightweight flat-track wheel like Kosman or barnes.. they are drilled for 8 bolt but on knock=offs its common to only used 4 bolts.. would work on the disc carrier.. for dragrace rear sprocket you may run the full 8 bolts..
 
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline sorcerer

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 516
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #298 on: February 19, 2012, 06:40:12 PM »
I have a 3Meg version of the bike if anyone want to PM me with there email...I'll send them anything I have except that 80 Meg B&W at 2' x 3'...chokes all computers except my aerospace one at work!

JR

Offline FuZZie

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,222
  • If I is expert, I can has cheezburger?
Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #299 on: February 19, 2012, 08:03:02 PM »
IF you want to try to send the 80m one to my email and give me a bit with it, I may be able to make it more manageable but I'll need to see it before i can make any promises.