Well,we knew it wasn't going to be good when he and machine became separate(when people ask how do you know when you're going to crash,that's my std. answer!)I believe he crossed the line @ 170+,not sure about Triple,I'm guessing high speed wobble(severe tank slapper),we'll see what young Russ says. Russ,mailed Cycle '75 on Triple and Cycle Guide '76 on Sorcerer.Went out today.Good luck on F/end!! Bill