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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #400 on: February 23, 2012, 07:30:40 PM »
This is a link to an auction that ended in Oct last year.
The seller has stated that he has several sets of legs and trees that he will be listing at some point.

I'm wondering if it worth pursuing him to see what he has or if he could steer you in the right direction to somebody else that may be able to help out.

I don't know if these are what is required but it could turn into a lead.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=130591618616&nma=true&rt=nc&si=T%252BoLFqL5Aj39tM%252FlySUAmwceEM4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #401 on: February 23, 2012, 07:47:31 PM »
an older set is on the uk ebay not sure if it'll pass on the look but it's a full setup and a buy it now button

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marzocchi-Ceriani-forks-Pre65-Metisse-Cheney-new-tubes-professionally-polished-/200715699815?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ebb968667

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« Reply #402 on: February 23, 2012, 07:48:29 PM »
I talked to Rick Stetson about this today. Most of you fellas do not know Rick but he had the quickest and fastest NA CB in the day. He also built and tuned Gary Clark's funny bike to 4 World Championships. Sam has meet him numerous times. Anyway....when I told him about this today he just looked at the the ground for a second, shook his head, smiled,  and said...."I'd go see that that run again". He saw the Sorcerer but just missed the 3 engine bike. He saw Russ in a wheelchair at Bowling Green right after that crack up in Ohio (I think that is where it was)
  It was neat to see Rick actually interested in this. He has been to every event in the USA many times but he was sincere in wanting to see this bike run.
 As a side note.....when he used to go to the West Coast to run in the 70's Russ let him use a corner of the shop to work on his bike. Byron took him into the "secret room" several times. He was there when they were making the "Conehead Mikuni''s. He told me that BEFORE Russ Jr even talked about that "secret room". Funny. ;D
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #403 on: February 23, 2012, 08:01:32 PM »
   That is real cool.   ;)   8) 8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #404 on: February 23, 2012, 08:09:25 PM »
   That is real cool.   ;)   8) 8) 8) 8)
Blue...you should have been there when Rick was talking a bike he was helping out with that was running Alcohol, a turbo with about 60lbs and nitrous (to help get it off the line before the turbo spooled up). I was laughing my a$$ off talking about cylinder pressures. Anyway they bent a rod (a Kawasaki roller engine with GS rods), had about 75% leak  on 1 cylinder but went out again and still ran a low 8. ;D I saw the rod.....the small end was bent over like a dead rose. ;) ;D
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« Reply #405 on: February 23, 2012, 08:14:02 PM »
   That is real cool.   ;)   8) 8) 8) 8)
It's funny how life works out Blue. ;) ;) ;D
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« Reply #406 on: February 23, 2012, 08:25:00 PM »
 Russ are those trees I mentioned 10 days back still available. the only snag I could see with them was if the width was off. 

 Try Wolfgang at Columbia Car & Cycle  in Nakusp B.C... he may have something..  (search Laverda Nakusp). He has excellent connections in Italy.. I got my forks from him. he may have trees kicking around and he is reasonable with prices.    Hew may know the guys that make the new ones, and could pull some strings.
 I may be able to make or loan a tree if that isa all you are missing.. These forks should be around on vintage flatttrackers, if  a collecter has a lot of them they may have parts.. I think you should get something for no more than  a G-note..
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #407 on: February 24, 2012, 02:31:09 AM »
I will be updating #317 above...which arm do I get the tatoo on?..lol

Definitely will be needing some digital version of what would be considered the site logo.

Jr.

Glenn just PMed me Russ, check you mail for the digital version.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #408 on: February 24, 2012, 10:29:13 AM »
 HEY !  I wanna know what the logo looks like !  Sam, post the picture please.  I have some idea's !   :o 8)
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #409 on: February 24, 2012, 02:59:37 PM »
Jon, search Glenn Stauffer and look at his avatar or got to the websites shop and look at the badge.
Not a lot of people realise what goes on behind us just chatting on a forum, it takes a lot of running and money.

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« Reply #410 on: February 24, 2012, 04:17:37 PM »
 Website shop ?   I found the main page, then i ended up at the page for the patch and pin, sooo i bought that .  I didn't even know those were available !   :o :o   A big DAUUH for me !!  LOL !!    ;D ;D
   Hey, how come there isn't any shirt's available ?    ???
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« Reply #411 on: February 24, 2012, 04:26:56 PM »
If you read through all the posts in that section, you'll probably find that there was.
The forum is that big, people can't read everything.  ;D

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« Reply #412 on: February 24, 2012, 04:39:14 PM »
   That is real cool.   ;)   8) 8) 8) 8)
Blue...you should have been there when Rick was talking a bike he was helping out with that was running Alcohol, a turbo with about 60lbs and nitrous (to help get it off the line before the turbo spooled up). I was laughing my a$$ off talking about cylinder pressures. Anyway they bent a rod (a Kawasaki roller engine with GS rods), had about 75% leak  on 1 cylinder but went out again and still ran a low 8. ;D I saw the rod.....the small end was bent over like a dead rose. ;) ;D

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #413 on: February 25, 2012, 04:20:08 AM »
Rick Stetson is impressive cowboy, He's also very quiet and quietly spoken, a very un-assuming person.
On top of all that, he is a fantastic  engineer, tuner, drag and land speed racer.
He is a member of the ECTA 200mph club. 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #414 on: February 25, 2012, 05:16:10 AM »
Simply as a matter of interest, is the cause of AT&SF's final run known?
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #415 on: February 25, 2012, 07:36:02 AM »
I know for a fact it was an evil handling beast, perhaps it just got the better of Daddy Russ. :-\
Young Russ will chime in no doubt.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #416 on: February 25, 2012, 08:27:58 AM »
Well,we knew it wasn't going to be good when he and machine became separate(when people ask how do you know when you're going to crash,that's my std. answer!)I believe he crossed the line @ 170+,not sure about Triple,I'm guessing high speed wobble(severe tank slapper),we'll see what young Russ says. Russ,mailed Cycle '75 on Triple and Cycle Guide '76 on Sorcerer.Went out today.Good luck on F/end!! Bill
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #417 on: February 25, 2012, 05:39:52 PM »
My Dad thinks the choice to run an 8" tire  made the bike less stable than it should have been. Of course a 10" was considered over the top back in 73.

The track had a good lane and a not so good lane in the traps. My Dad was running the same lane all day in a match race series with TC's Hogslayer.

Last round for the deciding win...my dad gave TC lane choice and they switched lanes. Apparently the triple fit perfectly into a dip in the traps and then it went airborne, tank slappers, end over end.

I was not there..thank God.

Today the triple was moved from under my bench and down to MDR and is already setup on a 10' long 2Klb frame table that has built many drag and streamliner chassis. It was a beautiful site and pics will follow by tomorrow.

I'm going to make some calls in regard to the front end tomorrow..must have.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #418 on: February 25, 2012, 08:29:04 PM »
 Good luck on the locating the front end !   ;)   
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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #419 on: February 25, 2012, 09:04:39 PM »
Amazing read so far.  Cant believe that i missed this thread!

Its wonderful that these iconic bikes will be restored and more importantly used.
Im waiting on my taxes to come in, then some $$ will be heading out to help the project, the idea of helping and even being able to get a signed poster is more then worth it

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #420 on: February 25, 2012, 09:14:11 PM »
Thank you...and that is "Limited Edition Poster" and t -shirt for those that helped when most would doubt. These early contributors will be treated as such.

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Re: Sorcerer and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be restored
« Reply #422 on: February 27, 2012, 07:15:38 AM »
Today the triple was moved from under my bench and down to MDR and is already setup on a 10' long 2Klb frame table that has built many drag and streamliner chassis. It was a beautiful site and pics will follow by tomorrow.

Hey Russ, who are MDR ?

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« Reply #424 on: February 27, 2012, 02:03:34 PM »
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