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wayupnorth

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Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« on: July 31, 2008, 03:02:34 AM »
Hi everybody,
Been lurking around here for quite a while, read ALL the posts in Project shop, and I'm now in love with these bikes AND this forum. It really is something special..  :D

Me and my buddy are now planning on buying and restoring a vintage Honda this winter. Probably a 500, 550 or 750.

Any special tools which i should get in advance? Have all the basics, but nothing to fancy.
Also planning on building a worktable/bench to have the bike on. Any tips/pictures on that? Preferred hight of the table?

All answers appreciated.

TG
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troppo

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 03:14:42 AM »
G`day TG
Dont know about special tools, there are a few around that i know of and a lot i`m sure i will learn about. The only one that really springs to mind is a carb balancer, i have a morgan unit that i havent used yet (carbs are the dark arts, beware).
As for the bench, height depends on the individual. My bench at work is higher than many because thats a comfortable height for me to work at, YOU have to be comfortable when working. If your going to be using then to sit the bike on you might want to look into building or buying a bike lift (like you see the tossers on American Shopper using) variable height and you could make it as wide as you need if you build it yourself, shouldnt be too hard if you have any mechanical ability (and the room).
When you have finished your bike you could still use it as a work bench, but the sight of it not being used for its true purpose will only drive you to buy yet another bike :D ;D :D ;D

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 10:10:20 AM »
Be a LOT more organized than I am! I spend more time hunting for tools / parts than I do actually working.

wayupnorth

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 12:40:13 AM »
Thanks guys.

Prior to starting the project I'm going til clean, reorganize, and re-"design" my entire garage.
For you members with immaculate workspaces, clever ideas, or not so immaculate garages feel free to post some pictures for inspiration.  :)




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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 01:00:54 AM »
There is a garage or shop thread around here somewhere. Also tips for tools to have as well...but I don't have a link for those threads in front of me.

You ave found the most important tool for working on these old bikes already though....this site! And a few members are special "tools" as well...

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 03:08:56 AM »
TG,
You haven't mentioned where your workshop/garage is. But make sure it's insulated and it's got a good base/floor to carry substantial weights. I speak from experience.
Extra Tools I have needed to buy in the course of restoring my cb750 were; impact screwdriver, drive thru philips screwdrivers, blind bearing extractors, thread file, soldering kit, gas canister burner, securing straps, bungee ropes.
I have also bought a set of extractors, but I don't know why, because every time I've needed to use them I've got myself into more trouble than they were worth. False sense of security I suppose.
I would love to have a lathe, but a) I can't afford a decent one, b) no floor space, and c) I'd end up spending more time on the lathe than on the bike.
Hope that helps

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 07:47:43 AM »
Thanks guys.

Prior to starting the project I'm going til clean, reorganize, and re-"design" my entire garage.
For you members with immaculate workspaces, clever ideas, or not so immaculate garages feel free to post some pictures for inspiration.  :)





I'll put up some photos of my work area once I get my bench moved in...just put up pegboard last night. I don't have any place to work when I'm up in my apartment in VA, but I "rescued" a corner of my folks' walk-in basement for use as an impromptu 'cycle shop' :D Not as good as a real garage or barn, but hey, it's better than nothing...


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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 10:32:57 PM »
clutch nut socket, clutch basket holder, charging rotor puller and a GOOD set of wrenches, sockets and screwdrivers. i am a big fan of the craftsman professional series tools, made by the same folks that do snap on tools for half the price, and dont forget a good set of torque wrenches and a tap and die set as well. i got my motorvcycle lift from homier http://www.homier.com/detail.asp?SessionKey=W48ZaS2iyGM5ab6hU1NIRl2oehXw0qKlbKI%2fnzM6fgV932s3m1iF%2b%2b1Mav0UmFiZDvlOQw3ezGPc&dpt=11&cat=159&sku=07111 a great deal at 249 dollars (i paid 199 3 years ago when i got mine) a lift makes life SO much easier on you and your back.

comp

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 12:59:53 PM »
lurking  ;D

rhos1355

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2008, 02:55:30 PM »
lurking  ;D


Is that Norwegian for "Bloody hell, that's a lot of money!" ?

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 03:48:08 PM »
lurking  ;D


Is that Norwegian for "Bloody hell, that's a lot of money!" ?

lol lol lol sorta but i'm in the USA  ;D

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 05:36:45 PM »
I don't know what you picture when you think of a workbench, but I personally hate wobbly or lightweight work surfaces, so I have a tendency to over-engineer my workbenches.

I made the top surface by assembling a number of two-by-threes. 




Each one is drilled with 1/2 inch holes at the middle and ends, and then threaded rods pass through all the boards to tie things together.  I used Liquid Nails between the boards.



I capped off the ends with some more 2x3, screwed and glued.



I then whipped up a set of legs using 4x4's and 2x3's.



Next I assembled the pieces, screwed down some 3/4 inch plywood and stained/sealed the whole bit with many layers of poly.






A few finishing touches likea some metal drawers from an old desk, plus built-in 110v outlets underneath, and I think it turned out pretty good.




Now, I didn't plan this thing with the intention of putting the entire bike on top of it, but I wouldn't hesitate to do so ,as it's certainly sturdy enough to hold that much weight.  I also never fear breaking out the hammer, this thing has enough mass that even my biggest hammer barely makes it shake.

Total cost was around $50-$60 I think for the wood, stain, poly, screws, and Liquid Nails.

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martino1972

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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 05:43:15 PM »
i think that bench can hold a v8 chevy engine.......what..it can probably have the entire truck sitting on it..
nice work.....looks good..

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 05:46:04 PM »
Heh, thanks, after some years in the garage it no longer looks quite so nice, but it continues to serve well.

I don't worry about it's appearance so much though, that's why I took the pictures, I knew it would never look this nice again lol.  It's acquired many war wounds over time.

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 05:54:07 PM »
Very solid bench  ;D

rhos1355

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 01:17:15 AM »
What happens when you have to move the sodding thing? Call a crane firm? That looks HEAVY!

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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 11:46:58 AM »
LOL no it's not THAT heavy  :D  I can shift it around with no problem by myself.  To move it any real distance two people are needed but two can handle it easily.  If it came down to it I could unbolt the legs and move it in sections.

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2008, 11:54:17 AM »
an old door and sawhorses... i have many doors, please come get them.

a piece of drywall works great under the bike to catch tools and do double duty catching oil/showing you where it came from.

put the toolbox next to the workbench... i'm still working on that one.  but thats how i know.








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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 11:58:55 AM »
My rule is don't buy tools until you need them.  Obviously you need your obligatory sockets, screwdrivers, wrenches, etc, but my bank account is much happier with me when I only buy the specialized tools when I need them, or rent them if I can.  BTW, I instigated this rule out of necessity, because I love buying tools as much as the next person, but my wallet wasn't too keen on that idea.
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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2008, 07:42:18 AM »
Hi everyone.

Sorry for taking so long too reply, but i (my girlfriend of course  ;) ) got a daughter on 08.08.08  :D 
My first child, so it`s pretty time consuming and unfamiliar.

Thanks allot for all the tips, and for the picture of the workbench! That`s just the thing i had in mind. The one I'm gonna build has to be able to support the weight of the bike. Yours looks tough enough for sure.

My garage has concrete walls and flooring so no problems with the weight.

Will be back with pictures following my garage-modification..  :)

Of too change another diaper...

rhos1355

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2008, 07:52:11 AM »
TG,
Firstly,Congrats on the baby I hope it and the mother are in good health!
Secondly, say good-bye to the garage, bike project and this forum. Your life will NEVER be the same again. See you in 18 years time. Bye.

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Re: Need some tips regarding Tools, workbench ect.
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2008, 07:53:51 AM »
Just make sure the workbench can double as a change table and you'll be fine!

Dennis