Author Topic: Starlight gold vs.candy gold (Read 12738 times)

guitarkev66 · « **on:** January 04, 2012, 05:34:22 AM »

I have an 7/71 cb500 painted in its original starlight gold. My question is there a difference between starlight gold and candy gold that they switched to in 72? It looks the same in pictures but I haven't compared. If its the same I am going to have my 72 cb750 painted gold and my painter wants a color to match it to......

andy750 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2012, 06:40:42 AM »

Also interested in this question as looking to get a spare tank and sidecovers painted in candy gold.

Hinomaru · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2012, 01:28:15 PM »

Quote from: guitarkev66 on January 04, 2012, 05:34:22 AM

I have an 7/71 cb500 painted in its original starlight gold. My question is there a difference between starlight gold and candy gold that they switched to in 72? It looks the same in pictures but I haven't compared. If its the same I am going to have my 72 cb750 painted gold and my painter wants a color to match it to......

Yes. There is a difference between the two CB500 candy gold's as defined by the Honda color codes: KC and LX

CB500 K0 = KC (starlight gold)

CB500 K1 = LX (candy gold custom)

To compare to the CB750 candy gold, be aware that the 69-70-71 used color code: CQ (candy gold) and then switched to color code: LX (candy gold custom) for 72.

These three different candy gold's (KC-LX-CQ) all appear the same until you compare them side-by-side, then the (shade) differences become apparent.

The (pre-mixed) paint can codes were:

KC = Y3C
CQ = Y2C
LX = Y2C-C

guitarkev66 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2012, 03:03:35 PM »

Awesome, thank you so much!!!!

72500john · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2012, 05:04:57 PM »

does anyone have any pictures of the differences out there?

bryanj · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2012, 09:24:29 PM »

Having been there and tried to do that i could not find a camera that would show the difference.

Also here in UK I took an original 71 sidecover to RS paints (they can supply all the Honda colours in 3 pack) and they could not tell the difference between it and the later paint they supplied.

SO unless you are unlucky enough to park next to an original one of the other colour you aint gonna tell---ALSO if you use the proper 3 pack every pass of the transparent colour coat will subtly change the tone anyway

andy750 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2012, 05:45:18 AM »

Can someone tell me which candy gold is shown in this photo?

thanks
Andy

Spanner 1 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2012, 06:27:01 AM »

My vote is Candy Gold.... see my avatar..... K1 10 / '70 build.

andy750 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2012, 06:32:50 AM »

Quote from: Spanner 1 on January 05, 2012, 06:27:01 AM

My vote is Candy Gold.... see my avatar..... K1 10 / '70 build.

So according to Hinomarus codes it would be - CQ = Y2C

This is what I thought as well.

Thanks
Andy

guitarkev66 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2012, 06:49:11 AM »

I dig the gold with the gold stripe!!!! Might do mine that way just to be different......

Hinomaru · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2012, 07:14:08 AM »

Quote from: andy750 on January 05, 2012, 05:45:18 AM

Can someone tell me which candy gold is shown in this photo?

No clue as to the actual gold used in the photo. However, the earliest reference to candy gold can be seen in the 6/69 CB750 sales brochure. Honda makes candy gold official beginning with frame number: CB750-1019210 and publishes it as color code CQ.

In 1970 Candy gold (CQ) was also used on the following models:

CB100 K0
CB175 K4
CB350 K2
CB450 K3

Here’s what an original CQ color sample looks like:

Hinomaru · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2012, 07:17:44 AM »

Quote from: guitarkev66 on January 05, 2012, 06:49:11 AM

I dig the gold with the gold stripe!!!! Might do mine that way just to be different......

Here's another example for you:

andy750 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2012, 11:22:22 AM »

Perfect Hinomaru that is exactly what I am looking for! Thank you!

Andy

Johnie · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2012, 12:34:23 PM »

Gosh fellas, I just had to...candy gold.

I was real tempted to try that gold stripe, but just could not differ from OEM.

736cc · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2012, 01:14:41 PM »

The candy gold prototype in London from 1969 (shown above) actually had a white stripe, just like CB450's that year. As for difference between 1970/71 candy gold on CB750's and the 1971 starlight gold on CB500's, looks exactly the same to me.

andy750 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2012, 01:31:56 PM »

Johnie your candy gold looks a bit orange to me when compared to the other photos...maybe its just the photos or my bad eyes!

Johnie · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2012, 01:42:02 PM »

Yah, I could not get the lighting correct on it. It looks a bit darker in the pics than it actually is too. Here is another pic when I got it back from the painter and even a different color here.

Maybe because they were taken inside? I have the same problem trying to get a good pic of the sunflake orange.

andy750 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2012, 01:47:27 PM »

The tank looks more copper in that pic but it could be the light and/or the amount of flake or silver basecoat?

slowjo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2012, 03:05:50 PM »

Does anyone know if candy gold CQ-Y2C is the same color as the candy gold sold at vintage honda paint? They list using candy gold hc-16-600 top coat with uc-16-100 candy silver base that they sell.

736cc · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2012, 03:09:06 PM »

I always wanted a new tank for my old candy gold CB750. My bike was pretty clean original paint. When I finally got a nos tank, it was very disappointing, it was so much darker it wasn't even close. Fresh candy gold is a horse of a different color.

andy750 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2012, 07:35:11 PM »

Johnie I take it back! It was my monitor that was out of wack - looking at your pics on another computer looks much better

Very nice!

ekpent · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2012, 08:01:22 PM »

I guess since we are into the Gold here is a pic of one of my favorite 750's,original paint K1. Got it from the original owners family and he kept it up pretty well. Vroom Vroom

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