Topic: Custom forward controls and combining front brake with rear pedal??? 75' CB750

[Retro Rocket]

It totally blows me away some peoples idea of proper brake use, no wonder there are plenty of bike accidents...

[trueblue]

I guess it is actually true, that you don't need to know how to ride/drive to get a license.    I guess I was just spoilt learning to ride on the dirt.

[Retro Rocket]

I didn't ride a great deal in the dirt , enough to learn how to slide, both under power and to wash off speed, even front brakes on the dirt have saved my butt more than once. I bought my 750 when i was 16, my Dad raced cars and really drummed into me proper technique, none of my mates could out brake me and it really p1ssed them off {pillions don't like it either } .... 

[trueblue]

Here's what I was thinking of for the brake setup

[dave500]

we used to practise at big half dried clay mud puddles to lock the front wheel and power straight ahead,power sliding is how dirt bikes are steered full stop,donuts are piss easy on dirt as is falling of and dusting your self down and jumping straight back on,locking the rear wheel to set up for a corner on the dirt is what you do,its how its done and is the only way!on the tar road its nothing like that,for someone whos never ridden dirt they dont have the experience in an out of control situation that is a normal in control situation on dirt so lack those skills i think?im a far better dirt rider than a road rider,,i still take fast corners and lift my leg of the peg and point it forwards!

[trueblue]

i still take fast corners and lift my leg of the peg and point it forwards!

It took me a long time to break that habit, I gave up on the dirt bikes before I did something really stupid and killed myself.  I tend to get too cocky on them, the road bikes not so much.

[dave500]

im at the stage of resting the ball of my foot on the peg now sometimes,,i could never ride some cafe thing with rear sets!its just un natural!ive ridden road bikes a long time aswell.
dont tell me how to ride a horse!!

[lucky]

Dear Lucky, you're talking gibberish, Honda has built the Dual Combined Brake System for more than 20 years on many types of motorcycle, even before any other manufacturer was even thinking about things like ABS, and it works fantastic.

Something equally condescending....LOL  Apples and Oranges Robvangulik !

With modern computer aided controls on the brakes, and the system designed from the very start to be that way- yes. But not on this 33 year old motorcycle.

It fine for you to have an opinion but like i said earlier, these type of brakes are NOT uncommon and Guzzi has been using them for more than 33 years, just because you don't like them {probably never used them} doesn't mean they are bad....

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[dave500]

its rip van winkle,not quite 12 months this time though?

[scottly]

Must be an early mushroom season in the NorCal rain forest Dave.

[lucky]

Must be an early mushroom season in the NorCal rain forest Dave.

Scottly, I have won over 56 AMA sanctioned TT races on dirt tracks. in Arizona and California
I know how to use brakes.

[Rookster]

Lucky,
How do you find these old threads?  Do you just cruise the search feature daily to see what grabs you or do you search for specific threads to bring back?  You can see the red warning about no one posting in this thread for over X days, right?

Not to speak for anyone else but I think Scottly was commenting on your singular ability to add nuggets of info to old posts that no one but you is reading until you bump them back into existence.  Shrooms indeed!

Scott

[Retro Rocket]

Most dirt trackers don't have front brakes....

I know boats - KingGee Classic TVC

[tlbranth]

When I got my first bike in the 60's, my Dad showed me where the controls were and I was off. I just learned by myself and the (bad?) habits I learned are ingrained. For example, I know about countersteering but in a sudden confrontation, I still lean. Don't think I can re-learn at this point. I always use the foot brake as my primary stopping device - because that's what I always did. I've locked the rear wheel in a panic before and had the back wheel go askew but automatically corrected for it without much thought at all. If I have time to think and I need to stop pronto, I use both brakes. Coming to a traffic light I use the pedal 'til I get close to stopping and then the lever so I can put both feet down. When I got my GL1500 I was not pleased that it had an integrated braking system. I don't like that newer vehicles try to 'think' for you. However, the foot brake on the GL1500 works very well for me. I can jam that puppy down and stop on a dime. The % front to back braking is not determined by some failure-prone device but by the bores of the two brakes. At least that's my understanding.

[kghost]

I think Honda came up w the linked braking system just for the "special" people who only use the rear.

[Retro Rocket]

I think Honda came up w the linked braking system just for the "special" people who only use the rear.

 

[scottly]

Must be an early mushroom season in the NorCal rain forest Dave.

Scottly, I have won over 56 AMA sanctioned TT races on dirt tracks. in Arizona and California
I know how to use brakes.

Lucky, you also claim to be a Honda mechanic back in the day, and then make statements like this:
Get rid of that #630 factory chain and use #520 chain and sprockets.
That way that heavy chain will not damage the engine cases so easily.
Many benefits.

I copied that from another thread and put it here, so as not to pollute the current thread with this nonsense. The K5 in that thread DID NOT come from the factory with a 630 chain, it came with a 530 chain. The 630 chain didn't show up until the K7. The case damage that you mentioned happened with the earlier 530 chains, and was finally attributed to hydrogen em-brittlement due to improper battery vent tube routing, well before the change to 630 chain. Perhaps you missed the factory service bulletin?