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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #350 on: February 25, 2013, 07:30:00 PM »
so far so good...but you have to get the rest of that liner out!  Gas will get right under the edge of the remaining liner and it will fail very soon.  You really need to find some paint stripper or methyl ethyl ketone.  I would try a paint store.  Does no one in Canada paint houses or refinish furniture?
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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #351 on: February 25, 2013, 07:42:03 PM »
Not sure whats available in Canada but MEK is readily available at most hardware stores. (Heck, I've seen it in Walmart). That'll rip the liner out. And by rip, I mean dissolve.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #352 on: February 25, 2013, 08:13:20 PM »
Not sure whats available in Canada but MEK is readily available at most hardware stores. (Heck, I've seen it in Walmart). That'll rip the liner out. And by rip, I mean dissolve.

Yeah, MEK is awesome. No experience stripping liner but it eats stuff pretty good, just don't get it on any open wounds. I'm convinced it would be a horrible form of torture.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #353 on: February 26, 2013, 07:03:26 AM »
I was just hoping to avoid the nasty chemicals in the apartment but that may not be possible.

*edit* looks like MEK isn't available in Canada. There are other paint strippers out there though obviously.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #354 on: February 26, 2013, 07:47:32 AM »

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #355 on: February 26, 2013, 08:22:04 AM »
Genius! I apreciate the tumble dry method, good one!


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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #356 on: February 26, 2013, 09:26:10 AM »
lol Thanks. I can't take all the credit. I think I ran across it once on youtube randomly.

I think what might work really well is if you could bake your tank (assuming you were going to repaint) then tumble it. I've seen a similar process from a guy called "fiatnutz" on youtube who is an old machinist/gearhead/autocrosser. He takes engine blocks, cylinder heads, etc and bakes them at 900F (I think?), then all the oil, grease, and paint, is dry and powdery, then it goes into an auto blaster, then it goes into a tumbler to get all the media out of the coolant passages etc. I thought it was pretty clever since once the grease etc is baked it becomes so soft that a very gentle media can be used to clean it off. This avoids damaging bearing surfaces etc.


UPDATE

Just ordered:
DYNOMAN head studs and flange nuts ($55 shipping... Sometimes it sucks to live in Canada!)
Tank badges from Yamiya - ebay
Tank Decals from Classic Cycle City - ebay

Also, I'm broke. lol

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #357 on: February 26, 2013, 11:00:38 AM »
From building a shop INSIDE your pad, to liberal use of the oven IN YOUR KITCHEN to putting you gas tank IN YOUR DRYER, you have redefined what it is to have a home shop.  Just awesome.  Keep it up dude, and remember, it's only money (sounds good until you don't have any more, I know).
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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #358 on: February 26, 2013, 11:15:35 AM »
Thanks Scotty J. My gf was actually commenting on the very same thing yesterday. lol

I've used the oven to bake some parts (gave up on that...too smelly and probably not healthy for your food). I've used the dishwasher to final clean engine cases and dry cycle will help to cure paint as well. I've used the dry to tumble my gas tank and also the tub and toilet to flush it out. I also have used the kitchen sink for various things and have washed many a dirty shop rag in the washing machine. That pretty much covers all my appliances.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #359 on: February 26, 2013, 03:04:50 PM »
Just curious, where about are you in Canada?


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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #360 on: February 26, 2013, 06:02:05 PM »
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #361 on: February 26, 2013, 08:52:44 PM »
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

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I think I've watched too many episodes of "How I Met Your Mother" because I read that in Robin's voice and it made me laugh eh. ;)

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #362 on: February 26, 2013, 09:35:30 PM »
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

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I think I've watched too many episodes of "How I Met Your Mother" because I read that in Robin's voice and it made me laugh eh. ;)

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #363 on: February 27, 2013, 05:55:08 AM »
This build thread is legend........

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #364 on: February 27, 2013, 06:06:19 AM »
DARY!

lol I watch it too.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #365 on: February 27, 2013, 10:57:36 AM »
You guys are the best!

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #366 on: February 27, 2013, 01:12:39 PM »
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

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Saskatoon, i could never brave your long cold winters, you are brave IW
But i do love the great thunderstorms in the prairies, just like a big black wall mooving towards you.(not so good on a motorbike).

I'm just an hour out of Montreal.
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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #367 on: February 27, 2013, 01:14:36 PM »
The winters can definitely be long and people who come from other areas are always amazed how fast the weather can change here. Also rarely a day without wind. lol

Oh well. It's home for me.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #368 on: February 27, 2013, 06:24:42 PM »
Couple things to report tonight...

DSS stuff showed up!


New rims, spokes, tubes, genuine points, side cover emblems, oil filters, air filter, mirrors, etc.


Honestly the quality of these reproduction rims is mediocre. There are definitely some flaws in the chrome and feel more cheaply made than OEM but I guess that's what I get for half the price. I will still run them but I will think about one day re-chroming my stock bits.


Since cycle x sent my near rear drum shoes I decided to tear into this bad boy again.


Comes apart real easy when it's all clean and greased.


Fresh pads.


The new pads really don't have much more material than the old ones. Peace of mind I suppose.


After some wrestling I got it on.


Back on the bike. Still need to decide if I want to run the stock sprocket cover or not.


On to the clutch. Cycle X kit came with new HD frictions so why not put em in, right?


Bearing plate pops out easy enough.


Springs follow.


Bend the tab back on the lock washer and then a hammer and punch to turn the nut off. NO this is NOT reverse threaded. I really should get the proper tool for this. Hammer and punch is pretty hack.


This pulls out after the bearing plate is removed to reveal...


The old stack up... just pops out.


My model has 7 frictions and 6 steels. My kit came with 8 frictions for some reason?


All the old stuff. My steels are actually slightly burnt. Not horrible but if I have clutch issues down the road then maybe worth deglazing or replacing.


New frictions have been soaking in 10w40 for a couple days now.


Stack them in alternating friction then steel... starting and ending with a friction plate. Also note the angle of the "cuts" in the friction material will sling oil out of the clutch pack. (The clutch spins clockwise right?)


Stackin up my new clutches. I was having a hell of a time tying to get everything to line up in the basket so I pulled it all out and did it outside the bike.


This is what it looks like when your front plate is NOT engaged correctly in the back plate (don't know the actual names). This is how guys break their front bearing plate ears.


Pull the front plate, spin it 90 degrees to the next hole and drop it back in. Now you can see the front plate is resting directly on the first friction. This is what you want.


I held it all together but just loosely doing up the screws. This way you can use the bearing plate to pull the back plate towards you and keep the rear splines engaged. I lined up all the tabs on the frictions and slipped it all in the bike as one unit.


Make sure that the first friction is still resting directly on the back of the front plate.


The vise grips hold the back plate up tight so the splines don't disengage. I found out it's not about pushing the front plate back into the splines ... you have to pull on the legs of the back plate to get it to come forward and engage the splines.




Gently thread in the bolts trying not to push that back plate back. Tighten them in sequence to pull it in evenly.


All tightened up with a dab of blue loctite on each... If front plate is not engaged in the back plate splines then you WILL break the bearing support ears. Proper engagement allows the ears to be tightened down directly onto the rear plate posts. If the splines are not engaged you will be tightening the ears down but there will be a space between the ears and the posts of the back plate. This will bend the ears down until they snap.


I've read a lot about people breaking their bearing supports and this is definitely the reason why. I took my clutch apart and put it back together many times to figure this out so hopefully it makes some sense to someone. lol

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #369 on: February 27, 2013, 11:09:21 PM »
just read through the entire build. Nice work man! You're really getting in there and paying attention to detail. Bummer about how small your shop is though. You have a more sophisticated version of my shop. Mine is a bit smaller too. Its not the best scenario but it'll be worth it in the end. I'm just glad we're not outside. Nothing would ever get done!

I may have skipped over this, but what are your plans for the tank and rear seat hump? GOing to do anything crazy custom?
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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #370 on: February 28, 2013, 04:23:54 AM »
I love the praries,
I dated a girl from Regina for 5 years but i never gor to visit Saskatoon,
Except for a truckstop on the outskirt, with a trucker when hithchiking canada from Quebec to BC.


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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #371 on: February 28, 2013, 06:36:43 AM »
Nothing crazy custom planned with this build. Probably a new stock seat. I think I've also decided that I will get the paint guy to match the red that is there but paint me the correct black stripe and decal it... like the original. It's not the true original color but it's the paint my dad had done so continuing with that idea feels good.

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #372 on: February 28, 2013, 07:34:46 AM »
No cafe style parts shall ever touch this bike! Blasphemy!

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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #373 on: February 28, 2013, 08:41:51 AM »
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Re: Project: 7-Fizzle built in the Man Room!
« Reply #374 on: February 28, 2013, 09:33:02 AM »
Agreed. Save the cafes for the rust bucket finds. Other than the fact that it was your dads, some bikes are just too good to do anything but a stock restoration to. Pay homage to the past ;) keep it up man. Any headway with pistons?