Author Topic: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build) (Read 173625 times)

calj737 · « **Reply #750 on:** January 31, 2016, 06:24:57 AM »

Did you "re-stake" the retainer when installing it? If not, the wheel rotating will certainly have unscrewed it and be contributing to your dilemma.

But the better news is, I may actually have a spare 550F wheel. Problem is, at the moment, its buried beneath my collapsed garage roof due to a sever winter storm last week. So it will be several weeks before I could send it to you with the spacers, retainer and hub.

strynboen · « **Reply #751 on:** January 31, 2016, 06:35:54 AM »

a maskinist can make a sleeve..and press it in the retainer)..and make it fit ..the veared part.. so all slock is gone at the moving parts....its not a big problem
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..look like the threds at the hub is still fine???can you schrev a nev collar? on..if the threding parts is fine..

minimo · « **Reply #752 on:** January 31, 2016, 09:06:00 AM »

I like to think that the thread on the hub for the retainer is still ok because when I screw it all the way down (I had to remember that it spins clockwise to remove it) it felt like it was a good fit when trying to jiggle it around. But there is some play when I try jiggling it midway down the recess. It's as though the heat from all of the friction expanded the aluminum and made it all a little loose. To answer calj's question about whether I had "re-staked" the retainer, well, no, there was none of that, so I'm just all about disappointing you, aren't I?

Thanks for the suggestion of machining those parts, strynboen. That is certainly a strong possibility but if it can be replaced with the actual parts, like with calj's kind offer, I think I would rather go that route.

Sorry to hear about your garage roof, calj. If it's any consolation, some of your 550 gears are still safe at my place :-)
I'd love to take you up on your kind offer, AGAIN. Meanwhile, another friend was kind to offer up his spare 550 rear wheel and hub so I could examine and compare it to the damages on mine. Hopefully it's not all bad and I could reuse my tire and relatively new spokes; simply replace some parts and be sure to stake the retainer in this time. I'll keep you posted on what I find how it goes. But like your garage roof, it may take me several weeks...
Thank yous!!!

calj737 · « **Reply #753 on:** January 31, 2016, 09:55:46 AM »

Theres never disappointment in learning, Mini. Only when you don't learn from your experience.

There's so many little intricacies to these machines, that only the old, gray haired folks seem to know every single thing about them. As for me, you could write all I know on the head of match and still have room for your homework. By the way, how is that assignment coming?

minimo · « **Reply #754 on:** January 31, 2016, 11:17:13 AM »

Quote from: calj737 on January 31, 2016, 09:55:46 AM

By the way, how is that assignment coming?

My attitude adjustment assignment is coming along just fine. I'm a lot peppier these days, thank you very much

What??

More on my action cam in case any of you have looked into it as a result of my post:

Quote from: minimo on January 14, 2016, 01:34:13 PM

Ready to roll...

Wide angle Möbius ActionCam HD (C2 lens).
Chopped a 1/4-20 bolt and threaded it on with a bonded sealing washer and nut.

Ready for action.

Do you see that stainless steel 1/4-20 all-thread rod? DON'T DO THAT!!! That was simply asking for suicide. I was an idiot when I thought of doing this but imagine you fall on the camera side and the asphalt pushes that rod into your skull and temples - skull harakiri. Muy no bueno.
Instead, opt for something less rigid like a plastic or a nylon rod, if you can find it. Hopefully, your neighborhood hardware store would have a plastic/nylon bolt that you can cut the head off and provide you with enough length to fasten all of the hardware and action cam. McMaster-Carr has these (they come in white or black): http://www.mcmaster.com/#93665A424

A plastic threaded rod would *hopefully* snap off at the point of impact in the event of some accident. I believe that these modifications done in the way that I have shown, and as long as the thread on the plastic bolt holds up well enough, should not compromise the Biltwell Gringo S helmet in either looks or cranial protection. However, I ask that you not submit these images and claims to DOT or SNELL - they'd probably have a fit.

As for the action cam, I'd like to mention that there's an option to purchase a 90° Wide Angle Möbius ActionCam HD (C2 lens) which would allow for vertical orientation of the image. This 90° lens option allows you to mount the camera on its side and playback the full wide angle range. In other words, without the 90°, you would probably want to get something as obtrusive as this:

While this method works and also provides you with improved adjustment of the camera angle, it also raises the potential for parts to come loose and become a hazard not only to you but to others on the road... Safety first.

minimo · « **Reply #755 on:** January 31, 2016, 01:17:28 PM »

I'm not 100% convinced about my hub and the integrity of the retainer threads (female part) on it. It may have been taken to a torch long enough to distort the thread to where now it's not a tight enough fit and this could potentially be dangerous, right? Also, part of the function of the retainer is so that it finishes pressing the bearing down, right? If so, I would doubt that it would be able to do this as sloppy as the retainer spins and pops out...
My Dunlop D404 tire and laced/trued Buchanan spokes have had their fun up to now; I'll consider them part of an expensive joy ride. But it's back to the operation room to rebuild the rear wheel and make it all right. Onwards to the foray of wheel lacing and truing...

calj737 · « **Reply #756 on:** January 31, 2016, 06:33:04 PM »

A handheld propane torch is not about to damage the alloy hub threads, so I think you can dismiss that premise. Aluminum takes an enormous amount of heat at much higher temps than Propane torches will produce to soften, let alone distort.

It is possible the male threads on the retainer are worn in the first half of the hub. But, threads can be "slightly sloppy" until they bottom out. Then, it should be quite snug. This looseness prevents galling, and allows a full seating of the threads without undue torque. The stakes are really what hold your retainer to the hub, not the thread. And if you don't seat/stake the retainer, the spacer can be sloppy too.

minimo · « **Reply #757 on:** January 31, 2016, 08:57:29 PM »

Ahso...

minimo · « **Reply #758 on:** February 07, 2016, 04:52:16 PM »

Harley used MADE IN ENGLAND parts back in the day?

minimo · « **Reply #759 on:** February 08, 2016, 07:52:24 PM »

Makin' a rear hub bearing collar

And voila

And made sure to stake the rear retainer this time. So far so good B)

minimo · « **Reply #760 on:** February 11, 2016, 07:29:34 PM »

So, it's an aftermarket petcock. Which way is fuel ON and which way is RESERVE?

goldarrow · « **Reply #761 on:** February 11, 2016, 08:42:11 PM »

I wonder if there is even a reserve function?

minimo · « **Reply #762 on:** February 11, 2016, 09:04:18 PM »

That's a good point, goldarrow. I don't remember seeing the two outlets like the replica here http://4into1.com/fuel-valve-petcock-16950-300-020-honda-cb350f-cb500k-cb550k-cb750k/

calj737 · « **Reply #763 on:** February 12, 2016, 01:46:49 AM »

the faceplate on the lever side should have designations on it. The arrow on the tab is for reference as to which condition the petcock is in. Your petcock is about 90* turned into your motor. Spin it farther counter-clockwise (or 270* clockwise) so you can read the plate from the left side while standing beside the motor.

minimo · « **Reply #764 on:** February 12, 2016, 06:52:21 AM »

These designations? Sorry for the bad pic.

calj737 · « **Reply #765 on:** February 12, 2016, 10:54:32 AM »

Yss, those, but the picture doesn't reveal whether yours is "Designated" anyway.... Going to have to remove the fuel line, rotate the lever and see what happens

minimo · « **Reply #766 on:** February 12, 2016, 03:57:18 PM »

Thanks, calj! I will check into it.

Obama and his entourage today over Burbank, CA

strynboen · « **Reply #767 on:** February 13, 2016, 06:15:31 AM »

they got 3 flying at same time

..after 25 years Work.
.and in a few years engines and all kontroll elektronik is autdated. in a try to make them less expensive..that make them years behind...
but that is alvays a problem vith high tech stuff..its old vhen it goes in aktiv service.
..auer British helikopters is no better,, have konstant problems..one Down in afg..and spareparts not in sight

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #768 on:** February 13, 2016, 04:01:22 PM »

Quote from: minimo on February 12, 2016, 03:57:18 PM

Thanks, calj! I will check into it.

Obama and his entourage today over Burbank, CA

I didn't know the POTUS was flying in an Osprey. That's a new Marine-One.

minimo · « **Reply #769 on:** February 18, 2016, 10:45:51 AM »

Custom upholstered seat. Added a slight bit more cushion. It'll do for now. Tank and speedo mount are next...

minimo · « **Reply #770 on:** March 08, 2016, 05:11:20 PM »

Swapped out the bell-end megaphone for a Dunstall-style reverse cone muffler and I'm wondering if I have it sticking out too far (about an inch beyond rear tire). The Dunstall-style muffler is definitely more muffled compared to the bell-end megaphone, and despite that it sounds like a better fit for my 550, I'm now missing the big roar of the bell-end...

goldarrow · « **Reply #771 on:** March 08, 2016, 05:15:31 PM »

Going from loud pipe to quiet pipe, you'd probably want watch the jetting, ride and feel how the bike behave

calj737 · « **Reply #772 on:** March 08, 2016, 07:03:10 PM »

Looks pretty long to me. I prefer the cone to end at the midpoint of the rear drum from an aesthetic perspective, though, some stock pipes reached the rear tire.

minimo · « **Reply #773 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:48:51 PM »

Chopped the muffler and the downsize adapter a bit.
How's it look now? My neighbors, I think, appreciate the muffled noise.

minimo · « **Reply #774 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:28:47 PM »

Tarozzi front fork brace is proving to make handling a little more stable which is a plus

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Author Topic: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build) (Read 173625 times)