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Offline 78whiteorbs

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VMR Paints
« on: May 14, 2013, 12:28:38 PM »
Anyone used these? http://www.vmrpaints.com/honda-cb.html  I see they have every vintage honda paint but there candy's are not true candy's .
I still would love to know what the paint codes were . For there spraymax cans loaded with there paint formulas  am guessing its something like 50$ a can .....
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 08:20:05 PM »
VMR Paints are TRUE KANDIES.....The candy paint VMR Paints sell on their website for spray gun applications are TRUE CANDIES, custom mixed with the House of Kolor products. Anyone familiar with candy applications knows the HOK products are top of the line in the automotive paint industry requiring a basecoat, midcoat and topcoat.

The aerosol application are also HOK products. The kandy basecoats are designed to mimic the kandy effect that do not require a catalyst. The application is still a 3-stage process

As far as paint codes, they simply don't exist.  Any numbers associated with any Honda color prior to 1982 are merely product numbers used by Lubritech. These "paint codes" have absolutely no value in the motorcycle paint industry or to any jobber.

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 08:50:50 PM »
First welcome to the forum VMR.  Like VMR is saying paint code are useless this is more art than science and you got to get a feel for things.

The HOK candy concentrates are really good products and IMO superior to the original dyes used to tint the interbase clear as they provide more UV resistance.

They are also fairly easy to work with an allow you to control you depth of color fairly easily.

Make sure you have a good sample piece to match against that is not all faded, or else you will try to match to faded paint and may not be happy with the result.

As for a cheap candy paint job I am not sure sure it's possible to get there for less than $100 bucks.

If you really want to go budget you could try the following:

1. Rustoleum silver metal flake $8
2. KBC08 TANGERINE SPRAY CAN HOUSE OF KOLOR $30
3. Spraymax clear coat $20

Add $20 bucks if primer is needed.

So around $78 and for that you will get some very sexy table legs like the ones in the pic.  No cheap way out on transparent paint jobs.

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Re: VMR Paints
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 08:54:39 PM »
I purchased the VMR paint Candy Gold full kit and hopefully will be painting over this weekend.  I will let you know how it goes. and post pics when complete.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 09:08:34 PM »
I purchased the VMR paint Candy Gold full kit and hopefully will be painting over this weekend.  I will let you know how it goes. and post pics when complete.

Please do can't wait to see the results.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2013, 04:44:33 PM »
I used it on this 550,  turned out ok.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 08:22:43 PM »
I finished painting my bike in the Candy Gold from VMR and overall I was happy with the results.  There are some issue with the paint job, but that's far more due to my lack of skills painting with a sprayer (this was my first time using a sprayer) than with the paint.  If you know what your are doing, or are supplying the paint to a professional to use, I think you will be very happy with the results. 

I will post some pics of the full bike later when I get it back together, but for now here is a side cover from two different angles taken on a sunny day to give you some idea of the affect.


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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2013, 08:38:42 PM »
Just my experience here, not really anything against VMR:

Please remember before ordering a VMR paint kit that many of the components EXPIRE once you break the seals; pretty much within two weeks. This is because they ship the hardeners in plastic tubes--they do wrap these tubes in sealed plastic so that you have to break the seal. I can't remember what the problem was, but I had to break the seal in order to use the primer hardener, but that also caused the separate clear coat hardener to start expiring (which I wasn't planning on doing the bodywork AND painting within a 2 week period). If they were sealed separately, then maybe it was because I couldn't read which one was which, so I opened them both. I brought in my paint kit in just before the expiration date when I got the bodywork done, and my paint shop (which is a VERY high-end shop) decided to not use it, so I basically wasted money, about $180 down the drain. I did manage to use the entirety of the primer that was provided (but had to get a little bit more) and that was it.

The paint shop had a look at the VMR paint, and decided that it was DuPont stuff. They mentioned that it is not as good as their PPG paint, but still "professional class". They matched what VMR mixed up, and they used a very high-end PPG system to do my bike. The paint work on my bike COULDN'T be better with their PPG system.

I called VMR a few times along the process and asked about what exact model paint model that they used since I ran out of primer, paint codes so the body shop could match what they had (they had to manually do it because VMR didn't have the info), and about the problem with the expiration.

Not a bad experience, but it just didn't work for me. Costed me more money to go this route. If you go with VMR, just remember:

1) Order more than you think.

2) Remember that the stuff starts expiring once you break the seals VMR should make sure that the hardeners are sealed separately. It would be nice if they could also list the paint system up front, because it would be nice if you ran out of one thing then you could go get what they used and continue. If the hardeners ARE already sealed separately, then they should make it very clear and obvious that they will expire once opened.

They were very prompt and easy to get ahold of, and their paint is professional, but it's just the idea of ordering a "kit" made it a hassle for me.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 06:56:30 AM »
I finished painting my bike in the Candy Gold from VMR and overall I was happy with the results.  There are some issue with the paint job, but that's far more due to my lack of skills painting with a sprayer (this was my first time using a sprayer) than with the paint.  If you know what your are doing, or are supplying the paint to a professional to use, I think you will be very happy with the results. 

Thanks for the followup!  Looks more yellow than the candy golds which you see many of the pictures of.  Check out this video and you will see what I mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJOA7HcNGSk

I will post some pics of the full bike later when I get it back together, but for now here is a side cover from two different angles taken on a sunny day to give you some idea of the affect.

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Re: VMR Paints
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2013, 07:44:29 AM »
As I suspected, PPG codes weree what I was after Do you have the one that you used?

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Re: VMR Paints
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2013, 11:31:44 AM »
I finished painting my bike in the Candy Gold from VMR and overall I was happy with the results.  There are some issue with the paint job, but that's far more due to my lack of skills painting with a sprayer (this was my first time using a sprayer) than with the paint.  If you know what your are doing, or are supplying the paint to a professional to use, I think you will be very happy with the results. 

I will post some pics of the full bike later when I get it back together, but for now here is a side cover from two different angles taken on a sunny day to give you some idea of the affect.



my candy gold came out identical to this.  I used candy powder from Yamiya that you mix with a clear base.  I suspect my painter ordered the wrong color, as the cb750 candy gold has a more orange hue to it.
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