most of my friends are Harley/chopper guys. I have ridden all my friends bikes (except my buddy Taylor's new panhead, which is foot clutch/suicide shift, and it's really nice and he worked really hard on it and I would feel terrible if I screwed up with this unfamiliar riding style)...that said, I think Harley's are crap, for the most part. Another buddie has a Shovelhead FXR...1340cc can barely outrun my 736cc (he doesn't get away from me until well above 90mph, and then it's just a matter of time before something breaks/falls off etc.) Also, old Harleys are kinda expensive and you can pretty much count on having to do a total rebuild on all of them. (you think Honda previous owners are bad, check out how fubar'd an old Harley is sometime) Cheapest thing is an Ironhead Sportster (mid 1950's-1980/81?) and they have many well known issues...basket cases can be found in my area for around $2500. Seems like guys have the best luck with Evo(1983?-present) motored bikes as far as economical, dependable projects. I want to do an Ironhead cafe someday, but for a $2500 buy-in, then the time and money for a total rebuild, the fun per dollar quotient just is not there in Harleyland.