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Offline ken736cc

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Engle cam for 750
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:47:41 AM »
I found this cam in a used motor. The brand is Engle. It has some marks stamped in. Can anyone supply specifications and opinions about this cam?   This motor also has Venola 836cc pistons.

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 03:45:55 PM »
Billy had one as well Ken in his cam sale the other week, I don't remember what letters were stamped on it though.

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 03:49:30 PM »
Found it, I forgot it was me who listed it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

#13.  Engle billet,  K 134 CWC D2 Engle  J  BR 21.

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 03:50:03 PM »
 Some of the RC also said Engle  check for end markings.
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 05:34:49 PM »
Ken736cc,
     
          I have an original Engle cam Flyer for the 750's I will try and post a picture of it ! Might take a bit not to good on computer lol.

Specs Engle DF-1

Lift IN. .340   DURATION 290 In.   Valve Lash  In. .002
      Ex. .340                   280  Ex.                     Ex. .004

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 05:47:27 PM »
Engle Cam Flyer
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 05:48:11 PM »
Wow!! Josh, you hit a home run, and on only your 5th post! Welcome! ;D
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 05:52:32 PM »
Engle Cam Flyer
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 06:20:26 PM »
Thanks Scottly,

       I read on hear all the time i never log on and  post for some reason Idk ? I never saw anything on Engle cams before always woundered why ? The shop my dad worked at MSI owned by his good freind (RIP) seemed to use them in everything Street and competition 750 Honda's !  Im not sure what year the flyer is from but possibly pre 77 due to the carb specs at the bottom ?

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 06:38:09 PM »
Good info Josh....I don't have that in my records. Thanks!
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 06:49:43 PM »
Ken736cc,
    From the cams listed on the flyer to what cam grinds Engle's actually made seem to be different they also had a H-9-DF-1 cam which has more lift and duration. It looks closer to the cycle x cx-7 cam (I think ? ) Was going to run in new 836cc motor. I'll take pics of the H-9-DF-1 cam campared to the cx-7 see if it looks like what you got ! Unfortunately don't have any riding feed back on what the Engle's cams perform like last motor had a web 41a grind cam in it with unported k cylinder head and it had broad power range ?

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 07:04:10 PM »
Do you have a pic of the stroker with the Webers..
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 11:20:08 AM »
Thanks everyone. This is exactly what I needed to know.
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2013, 09:29:13 PM »
I have an Engle in the drag bike's engine I haven't measured it yet. Now maybe it's on the list. I'll report back.
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2013, 07:05:27 PM »
Ken736cc,
       Took pics and measured the lobes on the H-9 Df-1 cam. To compare to yours if it helps you better ID the one you got. But the pics were to big.  In. lobe measures 1.4860 from heal to nose and the Ex. is 1.4285. If the base circles were ground the same should be smaller heal to nose I guess ? But this kinda brought me to a question The heal to nose measurements were smaller on the Br-21 cam and one labeled for a fuel bike the base circle looks like it was ground smaller to gain the added lift anybody know this to be true or am i just an idiot lol ? I dug threw some folders but couldn't find a cam card on the Df-1.

 Mr. Rieck no problem ! 754 pm me an email address i can send you a pic of the Tracy bike with webers ! DonR Cool hope it helps you out to !

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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2013, 07:21:31 PM »
Quote from: 77F on November 24, 2013, 07:05:27 PM
. If the base circles were ground the same should be smaller heal to nose I guess ? But this kinda brought me to a question The heal to nose measurements were smaller on the Br-21 cam and one labeled for a fuel bike the base circle looks like it was ground smaller to gain the added lift anybody know this to be true or am i just an idiot lol ?

    Josh
It was and still is common practice to regrind a stock cam by reducing the base circle, but due to shifting of timing, the reduction in the base circle may be more than the lift increase. My bike has a "mystery" regrind cam; it appears the base circle was reduced by about .050". One way to tell a regrind visually with the motor assembled is to look at the valve adjusters; with my cam, there are no threads visible above the lock-nuts.
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Re: Engle cam for 750
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2013, 09:15:56 PM »
I finally got a picture downloaded.
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