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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #150 on: January 26, 2014, 05:37:54 AM »
Last one of my go to sites for Duc parts.
https://www.motomummy.com/index.php?p=home

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #151 on: January 26, 2014, 05:50:04 AM »
I will NEVER shop at motowheels again.

I ordered a gallon of Motul 10/40 full syn racing oil. Included a free filter. That justified the shipping to me. When I got the package there was no filter but a cheap azz license plate frame with their advertisement on it.

Sent an email and the reply I got was "you didn't check the box". My reply. "Didn't see the box to check".

Next reply. "We can send you one for $8.00 shipping." My reply. "If you want to loose a customer over a $17.00 filter keep it. I'm done doing business with you."

Shame really because there were several items I would of liked to order. It's called "customer service".

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #152 on: January 26, 2014, 05:54:35 AM »
Oh Steve-o? Wake up sunshine.

Looks fantastic in White with red frame. Yummy!

White with black frame ain't bad either.

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #153 on: January 26, 2014, 05:54:57 AM »
Wow, that is pretty crappy.  I guess I have been lucky with all these vendors. :o  Never had a problem with any of them.  I run Mobil 1 syn 10/40 in my Duc and it works great, Motul is over rated IMO.


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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #154 on: January 26, 2014, 06:03:39 AM »
Wow, that is pretty crappy.  I guess I have been lucky with all these vendors. :o  Never had a problem with any of them.  I run Mobil 1 syn 10/40 in my Duc and it works great, Motul is over rated IMO.

No oil thread! Please!  ;D

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #155 on: January 26, 2014, 06:08:14 AM »
I worked in the oil industry for many years, so I can't help it.   ;)
Wow, that is pretty crappy.  I guess I have been lucky with all these vendors. :o  Never had a problem with any of them.  I run Mobil 1 syn 10/40 in my Duc and it works great, Motul is over rated IMO.

No oil thread! Please!  ;D

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« Reply #156 on: January 26, 2014, 06:10:49 AM »
Sounds like a motivated seller in Austin. Brand new bike without the Dealer screw on's and taxes.

Always liked these and the color.

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/4260498332.html

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #157 on: January 26, 2014, 06:14:54 AM »
Looks like it could be a good deal.  I love the white, but I am bias...  Stev-o sleeping the day away is going to miss another. ::)

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« Reply #158 on: January 26, 2014, 06:22:37 AM »
Looks like it could be a good deal.  I love the white, but I am bias...  Stev-o sleeping the day away is going to miss another. ::)

Possible. Was listed quite a while ago and still no pictures.  ::)

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #159 on: January 26, 2014, 07:36:02 AM »
Looks like it could be a good deal.  I love the white, but I am bias...  Stev-o sleeping the day away is going to miss another. ::)


Ain't sleepin, been up for at least an hour, good margaritas last night!

Can't do a yellow bike (or car), call me shallow or whatever.   Even though I have a few grand burning a hole in my pocket since the sale of the K8, I'm shopping for a sweet deal. 

I'd really like a vintage Duc, maybe something like this?

http://lakeforestil.global-free-classified-ads.com/listings/1-66-ducati-250-silver-rebuilt-it1390250.html
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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #160 on: January 26, 2014, 11:09:24 AM »
I'd really like a vintage Duc, maybe something like this?
OR,
Like this that was on a ride with us few years ago.

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #161 on: January 26, 2014, 11:11:04 AM »
I like it, price looks ok. Would rather all original but thats just me.

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #162 on: January 26, 2014, 11:23:26 AM »
I'd really like a vintage Duc, maybe something like this?
OR,
Like this that was on a ride with us few years ago.

Paul

YES!  Is he your buddy?  That is prolly a very expensive bike. Want to keep this at or below $5K....
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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #163 on: January 26, 2014, 12:07:15 PM »
I'd really like a vintage Duc, maybe something like this?
OR,
Like this that was on a ride with us few years ago.

Paul

YES!  Is he your buddy?  That is prolly a very expensive bike. Want to keep this at or below $5K....

No, I don't know the guy. That is the first time I have seen that bike. Probable see it again at the Old Bike Run. I think were on #12 just an annual event.
weekend after mothers day. Maybe see you here.

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2014, 09:36:42 AM »
Yes!  Looks like we have gotten Stev-o longing for an Italian ride.  Oh yeah, whats wrong with a white Duc? ::)  That black one looked nice but that low of a price seems a bit fishy, probably a good thing it was sold.  When looking at used Ducs make sure to get service records that show all scheduled maintenance was performed at the proper intervals.  The average owner will not have the ability to do the belts and valve adjustments.  Heck, I bought a laptop and all the appropriate plugs so I could work on my bike myself and adjust the ECU.  Makes setting the TPS and service interval light possible on my 2012. 

TT, My 848 is crazy fast with 140hp, I could even imagine trying to control a Panigale at 195hp.  One thing to be aware of is hard down shifts on your Ducati.  They have so much torque on hard down shifts the back wheel can lock up at times, thats why I upgraded to s slipper clutch, its awesome.  I also added a quick shifter to mine and its a kick in the pants.  Nothing like full throttle, no clutch, shifts to put a smile on your face.  ;D

tweakin, here is what I was talking about. Article from Web Bike World. Coffee cup read.  :D

> APTC clutch
This exclusive device provides a torque delivery which is a function of the torque applied to it. This makes it possible to considerably reduce the force required to operate the handlebar clutch lever, while ensuring transmission of engine torque to the gearbox primary shaft.

Depending on the design of the APTC clutch components, the transmissible torque, for a given size of clutch disk, can be conveniently increased over that transmitted by a conventional clutch. Another important feature of the unit is its capacity to automatically limit the reverse torque ("slipper clutch") generated during aggressive deceleration.

The APTC clutch was developed for the smallest Ducati two-cylinder engine, the Desmodue 620 i.e., and is now also used on the Desmodue 800 i.e.. In a conventional clutch, the maximum drive torque transmitted from the crankshaft to the primary gearbox shaft depends on the contact surface between each driven and driving clutch disk (and hence their average radius), on the friction coefficient of the disk material and the force with which the disk pack is driven together (which is a simple function of the cylindrical coil springs acting on the pressure plate).

In the APTC clutch, on the other hand, the force compressing the disk pack is not dependent merely on the pressure plate springs, but is also due to the special design of the hub, in other words, the internal device driven by the driven disks and mounted to the primary gearbox shaft. In this way the pressure plate coil springs, which are bolted to the drum studs, need not supply the full load required to compress the clutch disk pack in order to transmit the engine torque.

This significantly reduces the hand force required to operate the handlebar lever compared to that required for a traditional clutch design. The design of the drum is the key to the secret of the APTC clutch. The drum actually generates part of the load on the disk pack as a function of the engine torque. This load thus makes it possible to transmit increasingly higher torques, up to the limit determined by the size specification of the device and the friction between the disks themselves.

To sum up, the relation between the clutch input torque (applied torque) and the output torque (transmitted torque) is linear, while with a conventional clutch this ratio is fixed at its maximum, even when the actual applied torque is lower than the maximum transmissible value.

This is due to the fact that the load exerted by the pressure plate springs is always constant. Applying the same logic, but in the opposite direction of torque transmission, the greater the reverse torque applied to the APTC clutch, the lower its transmission to the crankshaft. <<

Entire write up here.  http://www.webbikeworld.com/ducati-motorcycles/monster-s2r/

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #165 on: January 28, 2014, 03:25:10 PM »
Heard back from the guy with the Ducati cafe:


From:  joy4ever71@gmail.com joy4ever71@gmail.com


To me:
Hello,

the bike is still for sale. Price is $1,800.
Mileage is 10, the bike is being sold as described, clear title, no mechanical issues, everything is in great condition and has been recently serviced. The bike is ready for the road. I am working overseas with Royal Caribbean International and my contract ends in May 2014. The location of the motorcycle is Portland, OR crated and ready to go. If you want to find out more details about how we can close up this deal contact me.

I have attached more pictures to see the condition of the bike.

Thank You,
Jonathan Graham



I replied stating that I would pay cash and my buddy would pick the bike up in Portland. Of course, no reponse [since there is no bike!]
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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #166 on: January 28, 2014, 04:08:35 PM »
Did you flag it?

I just did.

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« Reply #167 on: January 30, 2014, 06:17:15 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't know they put that clutch system on the lower cc bikes.  Pretty cool. 8)
Yes!  Looks like we have gotten Stev-o longing for an Italian ride.  Oh yeah, whats wrong with a white Duc? ::)  That black one looked nice but that low of a price seems a bit fishy, probably a good thing it was sold.  When looking at used Ducs make sure to get service records that show all scheduled maintenance was performed at the proper intervals.  The average owner will not have the ability to do the belts and valve adjustments.  Heck, I bought a laptop and all the appropriate plugs so I could work on my bike myself and adjust the ECU.  Makes setting the TPS and service interval light possible on my 2012. 

TT, My 848 is crazy fast with 140hp, I could even imagine trying to control a Panigale at 195hp.  One thing to be aware of is hard down shifts on your Ducati.  They have so much torque on hard down shifts the back wheel can lock up at times, thats why I upgraded to s slipper clutch, its awesome.  I also added a quick shifter to mine and its a kick in the pants.  Nothing like full throttle, no clutch, shifts to put a smile on your face.  ;D

tweakin, here is what I was talking about. Article from Web Bike World. Coffee cup read.  :D

> APTC clutch
This exclusive device provides a torque delivery which is a function of the torque applied to it. This makes it possible to considerably reduce the force required to operate the handlebar clutch lever, while ensuring transmission of engine torque to the gearbox primary shaft.

Depending on the design of the APTC clutch components, the transmissible torque, for a given size of clutch disk, can be conveniently increased over that transmitted by a conventional clutch. Another important feature of the unit is its capacity to automatically limit the reverse torque ("slipper clutch") generated during aggressive deceleration.

The APTC clutch was developed for the smallest Ducati two-cylinder engine, the Desmodue 620 i.e., and is now also used on the Desmodue 800 i.e.. In a conventional clutch, the maximum drive torque transmitted from the crankshaft to the primary gearbox shaft depends on the contact surface between each driven and driving clutch disk (and hence their average radius), on the friction coefficient of the disk material and the force with which the disk pack is driven together (which is a simple function of the cylindrical coil springs acting on the pressure plate).

In the APTC clutch, on the other hand, the force compressing the disk pack is not dependent merely on the pressure plate springs, but is also due to the special design of the hub, in other words, the internal device driven by the driven disks and mounted to the primary gearbox shaft. In this way the pressure plate coil springs, which are bolted to the drum studs, need not supply the full load required to compress the clutch disk pack in order to transmit the engine torque.

This significantly reduces the hand force required to operate the handlebar lever compared to that required for a traditional clutch design. The design of the drum is the key to the secret of the APTC clutch. The drum actually generates part of the load on the disk pack as a function of the engine torque. This load thus makes it possible to transmit increasingly higher torques, up to the limit determined by the size specification of the device and the friction between the disks themselves.

To sum up, the relation between the clutch input torque (applied torque) and the output torque (transmitted torque) is linear, while with a conventional clutch this ratio is fixed at its maximum, even when the actual applied torque is lower than the maximum transmissible value.

This is due to the fact that the load exerted by the pressure plate springs is always constant. Applying the same logic, but in the opposite direction of torque transmission, the greater the reverse torque applied to the APTC clutch, the lower its transmission to the crankshaft. <<

Entire write up here.  http://www.webbikeworld.com/ducati-motorcycles/monster-s2r/

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
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« Reply #169 on: January 30, 2014, 07:24:01 AM »
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« Reply #170 on: January 30, 2014, 07:25:38 AM »
Look at the mileage.

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Re: It's Steve-o's fault!
« Reply #171 on: January 30, 2014, 07:29:06 AM »
Look at the mileage.


Saw that. And the price appears good, but not feelin it, ya know. But thanks for tryin to spend my money!
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« Reply #172 on: January 30, 2014, 07:49:41 AM »
You're on your own now.  :P

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« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2014, 04:46:11 AM »
Oh yummy! The Rizoma Drift mirrors are ordered. Since they are a new product not sure when they will arrive but the "antenna" stock mirrors have to go.

Rizoma mirrors are slightly convex with a bluish glass. It's amazing how they "brighten" your field of view. Had a set on the Hyabusa and loved them.

Also picked up a new set of Rizoma bars in Red on a forum. I have a few ideas on how to drill them for the controls that have a pin. Some folks grind them off but not going that way as the tend to move. Not good, at least not for me.

Fresh oil and filter, waiting on parts to finish up the tail section. Timing belts down the road as I have to burn some fuel out of the tank before tilting.

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« Reply #174 on: January 31, 2014, 07:54:02 AM »
How many mph will the red bars add? ::) 8)...Larry