Author Topic: 77 CB592 CR! (Read 13426 times)

Roar · « **on:** April 22, 2014, 08:53:14 am »

Hello!

I bought this CB last year and I am in the process of transforming it into a Cafe Racer.

On the jack.

Delivery from DCC!

New rear shocks mounted and overhauling forks!

This did not look good! Good riddens!

Clip ons and bar end mirrors mounted! Oilchange, Valves adjusted, new plugs, plugleads and electronic ignition mounted.

Overhauled the carburettors although they did not look too bad, ultrasonic cleaned and new gaskets.

The seat has arrived, I am very pleased with the look!

I converted it with a built in selfmade led taillight.

More soon!

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2014, 10:37:28 am »

That's a good looking bike. Hang on to those stock parts, in case you ever want to go back to original condition, since your mods are all fairly mild/cosmetic thus far. I see that you swapped out the stock fork ears (rust collectors) for a set of aftermarket mounts.

From the pictures, it looks like you "bobbed" the front fender so that all is left is the fender mounting bracket. I do not believe that the bracket provides enough tortional rigidity to constitute a functioning fork brace. If you are going fenderless, you may simply buy a Tarozzi fork brace, which will keep the forks from twisting and improve front end handling.

Anyway, just my $0.02 for what it's worth. Enjoy your bike.

Roar · « **Reply #2 on:** April 22, 2014, 01:48:06 pm »

Thanks for the inputs!

The fender is cut just before and after the bracket so the fender is in place adding the same stiffness as before(I think). I am thinking of getting a Tarozzi fork brace as that is probably much stiffer and better than original.

The project is further along today, but I am filling in what has been done up to date!

Acewell instrument installed!

Velocity stacks installed!

Test fitting the Yoshi replica from Carpy! (Loud!) It will be sent to ceramic coating.

Preparing for paint

A coat of orange, also showing off my new Avon Speedmaster/Mk2!

Yoshi back from ceramic coating, looking good!

Time to sync the carburettors!

Seat fastened and bracket for plates in place.

The making of the seatpan.

The seatpan in place with padding and cover.

I added a chrome list on the edge of the tank and seat, to keep a classic feel.

This is how the bike stands today! As you can see the rearsets are missing, the brackets are on the way from Cognito moto so that is next!

Thanks for looking, comments are welcome!

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #3 on:** April 22, 2014, 01:58:54 pm »

Wow. Through the wonders of posting, your build looks pretty much complete (for now).

I would recommend the Tarozzi brace, because the stock fender mount is just a bracket to mount the fender, and it does not provide any significant structural rigidity to the forks.

GREAT JOB!!

Bankerdanny · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2014, 02:58:19 pm »

Glad to see you kept the original paint color, the bike looks really good. I would say get better tires, but what the hell, if you like the look, enjoy.

TyMatthews · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2014, 03:29:03 pm »

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on April 22, 2014, 01:58:54 pm

I would recommend the Tarozzi brace, because the stock fender mount is just a bracket to mount the fender, and it does not provide any significant structural rigidity to the forks.

But would that rigidity change much if the fender were still installed? That is, other than that bracket, what provides fork stability in a stock 550? The reason I ask... I am bobbing the front fender on my project, and removing the support arm for aesthetics. Am I going to need to consider a brace?

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2014, 04:28:19 pm »

Quote from: TyMatthews on April 22, 2014, 03:29:03 pm

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on April 22, 2014, 01:58:54 pm
I would recommend the Tarozzi brace, because the stock fender mount is just a bracket to mount the fender, and it does not provide any significant structural rigidity to the forks.

But would that rigidity change much if the fender were still installed? That is, other than that bracket, what provides fork stability in a stock 550? The reason I ask... I am bobbing the front fender on my project, and removing the support arm for aesthetics. Am I going to need to consider a brace?

In my opinion the stock forks are extremely wobbly and need additional bracing. A fork brace is really the only way you can address this problem, short of swapping your front end to larger diameter forks. This is why USD GSXR forks are such a popular upgrade, or even 75-77 GL1000 forks (37mm) for a more period-correct look.

The mount for the fender is not a brace. If you apply lateral force to the fender mount, it will flex and flex back once the force is removed. A fork brace creates a solid bar maintaining the forks' parallel position so they do not twist of flex as much. On the 550, it is difficult to mount a fork brace AND a fender because there is not much clearance under the brace.

Godffrey, one of our members mounted a fender on the bottom of a Tarozzi fork brace: see pictures 22-44 of the following. I am thinking of doing the same for my 550.
http://www.vinmoto.org/gallery/v/VinMoto-Garage/album03/Godfferys-Garage-123/Linas-s+CB550+Cafe/?g2_page=6

Gman · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2014, 05:00:04 pm »

Roar,
Looks great! If I may ask, where did you get the seat?

Fram, fram.

G

Roar · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2014, 01:44:45 am »

Thanks for the input guys!

750, What you say makes sense! I am going to look for a tarozzi fork brace to install.

G, the seat is Vincent from Carbon Moto, modified with tail light built in.

Roar

FunJimmy · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2014, 05:10:13 am »

Fantastic transformation.
Cheers

Roar · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2014, 02:52:54 pm »

Thank you!

Today I took apart the brake again and changed to EBC pads and installed a new vented brakedisc from cycle-x.
Then I found out that the arm for the calipper was siezed..... So i took it apart, cleaned it up and gave it some grease!
It looks like the brakes work a lot better now, but I think the calipper is flexing a lot when i squeeze hard on the brake.... is that normal?

With the new brakedisc I lost 1Lb of unsprung weight, anyway I think it looks cool!

LesterPiglet · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2014, 03:37:04 pm »

The caliper shouldn't be noticably moving. Have you installed what's left of your fender on the correct side of the caliper arm?

Nick0 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 23, 2014, 06:39:43 pm »

This is one of my favorite cafe builds of all time, really love the lines on this bike. Great work so far

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Roar · « **Reply #13 on:** April 24, 2014, 01:10:22 pm »

Quote from: LesterPiglet on April 23, 2014, 03:37:04 pm

The caliper shouldn't be noticably moving. Have you installed what's left of your fender on the correct side of the caliper arm?

Does this look correct?

Quote from: Nick0 on April 23, 2014, 06:39:43 pm

This is one of my favorite cafe builds of all time, really love the lines on this bike. Great work so far

Thank you!

Roar

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LesterPiglet · « **Reply #14 on:** April 24, 2014, 03:19:08 pm »

There's your problem. It should be, fork/bracket/fender.

TyMatthews · « **Reply #15 on:** April 24, 2014, 04:29:38 pm »

Man, your bike looks a lot like mine is eventually going to be! In particular the color scheme, low-profile fork covers, & headlight bracket. Luckily you're in Norway and I'm in Minnesota so we won't have to fight each other

Roar · « **Reply #16 on:** April 25, 2014, 01:03:42 am »

Quote from: LesterPiglet on April 24, 2014, 03:19:08 pm

There's your problem. It should be, fork/bracket/fender.

Thanks for the help!
It is installed the way it was before I took it apart, but I guess a lot can happen to a bike in 37 years!

Quote from: TyMatthews on April 24, 2014, 04:29:38 pm

Man, your bike looks a lot like mine is eventually going to be! In particular the color scheme, low-profile fork covers, & headlight bracket. Luckily you're in Norway and I'm in Minnesota so we won't have to fight each other

Ha ha!
I think there are a lot of Norwegian/Americans in Minnesota, maybe I can get one of them to do the fighting for me....

Your project looks great, btw!

Roar

flatlander · « **Reply #17 on:** April 25, 2014, 02:12:08 am »

roar, this type of brace might be what's needed for you as well: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=136643.0
unless you want to get rid of what remains of the stock fender, of course.

i like what you're doing with the bike. and agree with what has been said before: keep those stock parts as complete original bikes in good shape become harder and harder to find, and will keep their value.

Tews19 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 25, 2014, 04:06:10 pm »

Subscribed. .. Tastefully done.....

Stev-o · « **Reply #19 on:** April 25, 2014, 04:54:17 pm »

Nice F! And Lester is correct, the caliper arm should be mounted directly to the fork lower...

Roar · « **Reply #20 on:** April 26, 2014, 10:05:27 am »

Quote from: flatlander on April 25, 2014, 02:12:08 am

roar, this type of brace might be what's needed for you as well: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=136643.0
unless you want to get rid of what remains of the stock fender, of course.

i like what you're doing with the bike. and agree with what has been said before: keep those stock parts as complete original bikes in good shape become harder and harder to find, and will keep their value.

Thank you! I am keeping original parts that are in good condition.
That brace is interesting, are there any pictures og this brace?

Quote from: Stev-o on April 25, 2014, 04:54:17 pm

Nice F! And Lester is correct, the caliper arm should be mounted directly to the fork lower...

Thanks! That is now rectified an the brakes were way better!

Quote from: Tews19 on April 25, 2014, 04:06:10 pm

Subscribed. .. Tastefully done.....

Thanks!

flatlander · « **Reply #21 on:** April 27, 2014, 12:35:57 am »

Quote from: Roar on April 26, 2014, 10:05:27 am

Quote from: flatlander on April 25, 2014, 02:12:08 am
roar, this type of brace might be what's needed for you as well: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=136643.0
unless you want to get rid of what remains of the stock fender, of course.

i like what you're doing with the bike. and agree with what has been said before: keep those stock parts as complete original bikes in good shape become harder and harder to find, and will keep their value.

Than you! I am keeping original parts that are in good condition.
That brace is interesting, are there any pictures og this brace?

if you follow that above link there are some pics on tkat's site: http://tkat.com/forkbrace.html

he's not making them at the moment but may do a small run if there is enough need. put down your name here if you're interested: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=136643.0
if there are enough people it might convince him that i'm not the only one that would buy one off him

Roar · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2014, 03:20:25 pm »

Looks nice, but I have decided to go fenderless and add a tarozzi brace.

While I am waiting for my rearset brackets I am making a shifter arm.

bikerbart · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2014, 03:45:05 pm »

Very Nice , when I first started to read this thread I was worried because your Bike was perfectly fine the way it was IMO. But you did it justice, This was the bike that got me started in Motorcycling back in 92, my girlfriend had one and I got tired of riding on the back of HER bike, so I went and picked up an old 76 KH400 ( or KZ ) . Love the color , I also like that honda just put super sport on the tank and no other graphics. Sometimes I wish My 750 didnt have the fat black stripe . Good job.