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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2014, 08:54:48 PM »
Steve, Honda points?  $30 is somewhat significant.   Is the post coming out of the crank straight?

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2014, 08:55:40 PM »
Steve, Honda points?  $30 is somewhat significant.   Is the post coming out of the crank straight?

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2014, 09:03:09 PM »
Straight post is good, I remember spending way too much time tracking down an erratic idle when all that was wrong was a tweaked post.  Guess I'd go for points and condensors on a glass beaded plate(I have a cheap HF sand blaster)...Larry

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2014, 10:43:30 PM »
I am no expert on the electrics on these bikes but have sorted plenty of electrical issues on cars, trucks and machinery. If it appears that the voltage is diappearing somewhere then you need to find the leak. I know this sounds simple but in the end the solution will be too.

You may need to look at each wire one at a time disconnect each and do polarity check, I have had wire fatigued along the length and after doing maintenace it breaks but the sheath is ok. Check the resistance in the coils and check for a good contact at every connector, if the wire sheath or plastic near a connector looks slightly deformed (usually from heat) then most likely it needs fixing or replacing.

Steve sorry if I have explained anything that you have already done or already know, I am just explaining how I would approach it.

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2014, 11:43:40 PM »
these have an ordinary bolt no special post like 750s,ill bet with new points etc you get spark?

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2014, 11:45:46 PM »
Checked grounding of the coils?
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #81 on: May 16, 2014, 04:01:22 AM »
Thanks for all the suggestions, guys.  I'll be checking all connections and installing the new points/condensers. 

If that fails, I'm going to take Dave's suggestion and convert it to Steam!
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #82 on: May 16, 2014, 04:03:00 AM »
you aint punk enough stev-o!

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2014, 04:04:12 AM »
Thanks for all the suggestions, guys.  I'll be checking all connections and installing the new points/condensers. 

If that fails, I'm going to take Dave's suggestion and convert it to Steam!


good idea, why not go all the way to steampunk?  Maybe you could create a new genre called StevePunk.

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #84 on: May 16, 2014, 04:10:30 AM »
you aint punk enough stev-o!

I will convert myself to StevoPunk! Here is Phase 1......


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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #85 on: May 16, 2014, 04:23:23 AM »
Good start, when do all the tats come?

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #86 on: May 16, 2014, 07:55:52 PM »
Bad news - I got shocked! Good news - I got spark!!

New points and condensers were in the mailbox when I got home, and couldn't wait to slap em in.
Was planning on taking the Z1 for a ride after work but blew if off, maybe tomorrow. 

So, replaced the points and condensers, mounted the carbs, installed new plugs and caps but WTF?
Plug wire #2 is too short, won't reach.  I did clip about a quarter inch but it's at least a half inch short. Fark!  Keep moving. Flushed the tank.  Install new screen and o ring in the petcock.  Put some fresh fuel in it, WTF, it's leaking.  Fark! At this point, I'm a little bummed but want to do start up regardless. Installed tank and hook up the fuel lines, still leaking.  Cranked that sucker.  Cranking....cranking... crank again and finally a little fire!! She lives....just barely. 

I've got some issues to resolve but today was a big step towards getting er back on the road.
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #87 on: May 16, 2014, 08:01:53 PM »
That first fire is always a relief even when you know there is still work to be done.

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #88 on: May 16, 2014, 08:04:47 PM »
Good news Stev-o, so it runs on 3 cylinders?. You must have a spare set of coils in the batcave I presume...Larry

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #89 on: May 16, 2014, 08:19:50 PM »
Fark! I hate when that happens.  You're on a roll but things just keep going wrong one right after another.   But it runs at the end.  Awesomeness. 
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #90 on: May 16, 2014, 08:25:07 PM »
Good news Stev-o, so it runs on 3 cylinders?. You must have a spare set of coils in the batcave I presume...Larry


Oh yeah, it's already on the workbench and tested good.  Hoping I have a petcock too.


That first fire is always a relief even when you know there is still work to be done.




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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #91 on: May 16, 2014, 08:29:04 PM »
Try swapping the leads arounf maybe one is slightly yoo long

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2014, 05:24:55 AM »
Try swapping the leads arounf maybe one is slightly yoo long




Ahhhh.......don't think that will work.  #3 is just long enough.  PO must have trimmed them a few times over the years. 
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2014, 05:44:23 AM »
stick your tongue on the short ones and crank it?only trying to help?

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2014, 06:02:02 AM »
stick your tongue on the short ones and crank it?only trying to help?

While holding a beer??
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2014, 03:39:57 PM »
Don wellington boots and stand on a rubber mat. I think . . .

Sounds like good progress.

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2014, 05:11:35 PM »
Replaced the coil, had one on the shelf.   Have 5 spare pet cocks, none were the right type.

Have had bad luck rebuilding petcocks in the past, ordered a new one from Partzilla, only $38. 
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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2014, 01:32:46 PM »
Rolled it out of the garage, mounted the tank with the leaking petcock and starter her up.  It's amazing how much better four cylinder bikes with spark on all cylinders!

After a couple minutes of warm up, she idled on her own...progress.
Let I proceeded to blow out the crud in the exhaust, that's rather fun.
The engine smoked a little from the head but stopped after a few minutes.

Did a trans check while on the center stand, shifts fine. While in gear, tested rear brake, wheel stopped but motor kept running...WTF? Oh know, chutch not so good after all?  That has always concerned me about this 500, since it came with that case cover off. A quick clutch adjust and all is fine. I only drove it a very short distance since I have no front brake and my driveway is rather steep.

As she sits now...


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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #98 on: May 18, 2014, 02:21:40 PM »
Well done Steve, a credit to you !

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Re: The Patina Bike, Stev-o's '71 CB500
« Reply #99 on: May 18, 2014, 02:34:12 PM »
Splendid! Congratulations.

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