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Offline 72 yellow

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Condensers
« on: November 29, 2015, 08:06:28 AM »
Has anyone used automotive condensers in place of the expensive TEC brand ?

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Re: Condensers
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2015, 08:39:26 AM »
any 0, 22 mikrofarad vill do the job.
.i often use some from elektric Tool Machinery..they are 220/400 volt..but it doss".. matter..or any elektronik part shop have them.


.but they hold for many years..so vhy not get the real stuff..
.it still not that expensive
..or use some used..ones.. i do not  have one failed for years...
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 08:03:28 AM »
buy a used OEM points plate off ebay. 
use what you need, and store the rest for a rainy day  ;)
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 09:01:44 AM »
Invest in Hondaman's ignition module and the condensers are no longer needed.
The points will have no electrical wear either! (pitted contact surface)

I have my ignition module on top of the battery which is a lower model.
Next battery when I need a new one might be an 11Ah model that is even lower which make it possible to store spare relays and other stuff too:)
I guess the 11Ah will work as good as my 14Ah when my by LED gadget supervised CB750 std charging system work fine.
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 09:24:55 AM »
Invest in Hondaman's ignition module and the condensers are no longer needed.


PeWe, I wondered about that detail not too long ago and asked Mark about it. He said unless you have a really good spark advance unit the condensers should be in as well.  ;)
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 11:29:17 AM »
the kondensator loads up..and give some ekstra dwell time..but some coils( cdi ignision types) can  autfunktion it.
.but think it only are the low ohm types.

..ther old heigh ohm knikser types coils need the kondensator
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 11:39:26 AM »
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..ther old heigh ohm knikser types coils need the kondensator
In Hondaman's transistor ignition module there will be a condensor no doubt. Why he advises to keep the condensors on the plate connected I don't quite understand. With the transistor ignition I built, disconnecting the plate condensors is mandatory to avoid the risk of damaging the module.
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 11:42:26 AM »
yed but your ignision modul have some indbuild vho steer the dvell to a longer time..and kompensate for the kondenastor
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Re: Condensers
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 12:56:28 PM »
Hondamans electronic module is built to keep the condensers on the plate (even though it doesn't use them) so that in the unlikely event that if the electronic module should fail you have everything with you to disconnect the electronics by the side of the road and you would be able to reconfigure the stock system with the condensers and the points and continue your trip.

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