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Offline turboguzzi

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my first water jet job
« on: December 07, 2016, 11:55:07 AM »
well, it's not for a sohc but applicable to anything really.
did the CAD with CREO (but any 2D software will do), sent the .dwg files to Mirko and here we are.

caliper brackets, engine mounts, rear sets and even two fork braces, one is going to the good old CB500/4.

pretty amazed at the precision, even in the small holes meant for M6 threading.

would have been quite chore to do manually and it all came under 100 euros.

will post some installation pics soon

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2016, 12:36:05 PM »
Water jet is the only way to go. Cheap, precise and easy. If you can dream it, you can have it water jetted. The vast majority of the custom bits on my bike started as water jet cut pieces.
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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2016, 12:38:47 PM »
That is very cool. Having a good fork brace that cheaply would be awesome.  Especially one that could accommodate a stock fender
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 01:31:40 PM »
Great value..
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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2016, 11:08:22 PM »
Looks great. I'm trying to get my buddy Wilbur to hook me up with a waterjetted exhaust flange for a Volvo B18 so I can try to build a turbo header for  PV544 project car.  😁

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2016, 02:07:23 AM »
Fantastic! There's a company selling a desk top water jet called a "Wazer" that looks pretty good, for around $1300 USD from memory? I really want one.......... ;D

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2016, 03:57:13 AM »
Fantastic! There's a company selling a desk top water jet called a "Wazer" that looks pretty good, for around $1300 USD from memory? I really want one.......... ;D

I've seen that terry! I would love one but I don't know cad which I would assume is necessary knowledge to use such a device.


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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2016, 04:15:13 AM »

Just looked and they are still in upstart mode taking pre orders but the cost is 4500. At the aforementioned 1300 I may have started thinking hard but for 4500 I'll keep using my guy.
Fantastic! There's a company selling a desk top water jet called a "Wazer" that looks pretty good, for around $1300 USD from memory? I really want one.......... ;D

I've seen that terry! I would love one but I don't know cad which I would assume is necessary knowledge to use such a device.


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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2016, 07:39:23 AM »
some installed parts....

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2016, 08:33:18 AM »
The pressure is very high. 4500 BAR if I remember correctly.
I guess the pump will cost some. I have seen waterjet systems with industrial robots handling the parts and waterjet equipment mounted on the robot. My part of it was the robot part with programming related to car interior installation 15 years ago....
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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2016, 11:42:51 AM »
I am glad that it turned ok ;)

Looking good on the bike.

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2016, 02:31:46 PM »
tnxs mirko!

while yiu are in rome dont forget to rent a scooter, it's like doing a track day at a third of the cost ;)


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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2016, 03:01:00 PM »
Nice idea. Its time for Nina to learn to drive a bike ;)

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2016, 08:40:32 AM »
wouldnt try to teach ANYBODY how to ride in Rome.... but if you are a good rider the total traffic madness is fun!

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2016, 03:57:12 PM »
Hey Yossef! So are you going back to race with the cb500 next year?

And would it be possible to create triple trees with the same system you have used?

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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2016, 04:26:03 PM »
You can make triple trees, but they should be bored. For the three critical holes, dont depend on the wjet for a precision holes that the triple trees need. Plus you still need to do the side operations, drill tap , clearance..counterbore.....plus build a stem on a lathe...
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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2016, 04:47:19 PM »
It's how I make all my triple trees. It's a fairly precise and inexpensive process. Frank is right that you need to final machine the part as accuracy isn't near that needed for the three holes.
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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2016, 04:57:09 PM »
wouldnt try to teach ANYBODY how to ride in Rome.... but if you are a good rider the total traffic madness is fun!

Haven driven in Rome in rush hour traffic in the morning for work in the mid-90s it was highly invigorating and amusing how a street for two lanes and parking on both sides ends up being 5-6 lanes wide in the rush hour. Plus the motorcycles and scooters are lane splitting and abusing your mirrors or worse if you don't leave them enough room to do so.   Traffic doesn't move briskly but it does move at a good pace given the volume of traffic.  Loved the Renault Clio I rented, wish we had nice gearboxes like that in the US.  The only thing bad was the very lightweight construction would be fatal in a side collision at speed and likely in frontal with much speed. At that time, no airbags and doors closed with a loud "tink".  Enjoyable car.
Definitely wouldn't try learning to ride in Rome, maybe in the countryside but never Rome.

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Re: my first water jet job
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2016, 03:17:25 AM »
Ricardo, it's for a GPz550 i had around and decided to build as a "training bike" till parts for the supermono motor arrive

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss18/turboguzzi850/sun_zpszsuir16p.jpg

 i guess it's totally possible to do fork clamps, actually have similar plans myself.... :) you will have to put them after in milling machine to get the holes smoother and more precise, the water cut surface is that little bit rough.

you will also have to hollow out the bottom side of the lower clamp, otherwise the will weight quite a bit.... the top clamp can be made lighter in the style of the current motogp clamps with long elongated holes
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