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Offline tato81

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Swingarm Swap CB750
« on: January 21, 2017, 09:10:01 AM »
Any one know of the swingarms that will fit a cb750? Suzuki GSXR? Honda CBR F2? Or other. the best will be Plug & Play ;D

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2017, 12:56:21 PM »
Any one know of the swingarms that will fit a cb750? Suzuki GSXR? Honda CBR F2? Or other. the best will be Plug & Play ;D
Depends on what 750 77-78 are not the same as the 69-76. Tell us more about the bike. Also why you want to change.
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2017, 01:35:17 PM »
The gsxr swap is pretty common but you have to gut the triangle and fab an upper mount for the monoshock.  Might interfere with the 750 oil tank, might...

Cb550 swingarms are longer than some years of 750 swingarms, look original and don't require frame mods.

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2017, 01:46:31 PM »
I have a spare frame k2 and working k6 engine. I want to build a motorcycle tour. My original CB750 K4 has a floppy swingarm, poor brakes and front fork is also not good. I want to build something like this: 



One honda original enough for me. I want to second motorcycle was safe and well led and inhibited.

The gsxr swap is pretty common but you have to gut the triangle and fab an upper mount for the monoshock.  Might interfere with the 750 oil tank, might...

Cb550 swingarms are longer than some years of 750 swingarms, look original and don't require frame mods.
The 550 swingarm looks like vintage. I want modern looks like and good handling motorcycle.
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2017, 04:28:26 PM »
Bracing a swingarm is always an option, then you can try and convincing people its a ducati part  ;D

unless you think you absolutely need a rear disc brake.

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2017, 02:48:59 AM »
I combined K3 frame with F2 engine, wheels, fork and swingarm.  Not too difficult to do:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,115305.msg1299318.html#msg1299318

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 03:38:45 AM »
I'm swapping a CBR600 F2 arm into my 500. The axle is the same diameter as our SOHC4 bikes, so it only needs spacers on that end to center the wheel and it's almost the same width at the pivot bolt so narrow spacers are all that's needed. The axle pivot bolt is larger on the CBR arm, so it'll need custom bushings to make up the difference. The arm is also 2" longer than a 500 unit, not sure the difference compared to a 750, but I'm having mine shortened to retain stock geometry. Also needs shock mounts welded on if not going monoshock and a brake stay added if not converting to a disc or cable brake.

I was under the impression that 500/550/750 arms are all swappable, so it should be the same mods to fit into a 750. It's a lot of work and not as cool, but still cheaper than a calfab arm and easier to find than a dresda arm. It's a near weight neutral mod too, might shave a few grams off but the stiffness gained is significant.

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 03:40:35 AM »
MotoGP Werks in California sells a fully new CalFab aluminum arm. Plug and play, and really beautiful.

http://www.motogpwerks.com/shop/calfab-usa-swing-arms/version/v1-honda/cb750k-sohc-1970-1978.html
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 08:57:55 AM »
...But the way, they're not $100, so don't heed that price...
What is the price?

I'm swapping a CBR600 F2 arm into my 500... The arm is also 2" longer than a 500 unit, not sure the difference compared to a 750, but I'm having mine shortened to retain stock geometry...
if I shorten CBR600 F2 swingarm I think it will not fit the wheel... ?

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2017, 10:16:12 AM »
I toyed with a cbr 600 f3 arm,it fit fairly easy but the shock mounts didnt excite me too much.i used my stock arm and put a disc brake on that

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2017, 11:56:39 AM »
...But the way, they're not $100, so don't heed that price...
What is the price?

I'm swapping a CBR600 F2 arm into my 500... The arm is also 2" longer than a 500 unit, not sure the difference compared to a 750, but I'm having mine shortened to retain stock geometry...
if I shorten CBR600 F2 swingarm I think it will not fit the wheel... ?


The brace needs modification to shorten the arm. The stock arm as shown has a lot of extra clearance, so the amount required is less drastic than it seems at a first glance. I'm going the route of having an elliptical section cut out of the brace and re-boxed to fit the new profile. You could also cut out the entire brace and move it back or have a new brace welded in, but that costs more money. The further back from the pivot bolt you can keep the brace the more it will resist bending and twisting as well.





Keep in mind that this is modification for a 500 arm, if you wanted to retain stock geometry with a shorter 750 arm it might get a little trickier to find room for clearances. If you don't mind the extra 1" of the 500/550 arms it's a viable alternative.
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2017, 08:12:55 AM »
Fantino: thanks for the illustration to show the swingarm mods (helps explain the clearance) and the :( face from your markings.
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 11:48:01 AM »
....helps explain the clearance) and the :( face from your markings...
I think that;
- X is cut off
- "triangle" - the handles for shock

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2017, 02:33:08 PM »
....helps explain the clearance) and the :( face from your markings...
I think that;
- X is cut off
- "triangle" - the handles for shock

Yes.  My comment was sarcasm about the :( face.  ::) :D
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2017, 04:11:58 PM »
On the price of the CalFab swingarms, don't quote me on it, but I think they are to the order of $900 and I am not so sure they are available for the 750 Supersports with the rear disk, but I haven't followed it to ground.

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2017, 04:21:24 PM »
how wide a wheel you planning on using? 

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2017, 10:41:55 PM »
how wide a wheel you planning on using? 
It is less important to me. I will adjust the wheel for swingarm. If I will have a swingarm, I buy the appropriate wheel.

...Yes.  My comment was sarcasm about the :( face.  ::) :D...
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2020, 10:51:52 PM »
Well I've taken the challenge upon myself to try something along these lines...and a bit across them. This is my 1980 CB650 just purchased for a song and initially I just wanted to bob it but after some research which may never end Ive decided to graft the 2006 CB599 Hornet swingarm, tires and brake system complete onto the 650 platform. I'm also incorporating a modern front suspension, braking and steering system borrowed temporarily from the same hornet as the swingarm. But I have recently read alot of reviews about the GXS-R Conversion which has much more trial and error that I've been able to find than the CB599 fork and tree swap. Both swaps have been relatively simple more so than I thought. But miles to go before I sleep..will keep posting pics as we progress.

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2024, 03:13:40 PM »
Hey what swing arm bolt did you use??

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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2024, 04:57:29 PM »
 I keep seeing Ironsteve25's upside down carbs. Might work with an anti-gravity brand battery.
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Re: Swingarm Swap CB750
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2024, 08:53:23 PM »
I keep seeing Ironsteve25's upside down carbs. Might work with an anti-gravity brand battery.
...or in Australia, maybe?
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