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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2017, 08:27:22 pm »
Nice score indeed, Eric.  Very hard to get matching patina side panels.  It's metal, right?

I like it in blue!


+1  ;) 8)  I know you had to be scanning Ebay until your eyes hurt to find that deal.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2017, 04:05:54 am »
They are plastic Steve which makes them even harder to find without crack or the mounting slots on the top unbroken. The emblem is metal which will make it easier to restore.

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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2017, 05:00:07 am »
Loving this thread.  Nice work ekpent!   I just picked up a 71 h1, and pair of gt550's.  Love me the smokers


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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2017, 08:50:42 am »
Loving this thread.  Nice work ekpent!   I just picked up a 71 h1, and pair of gt550's.  Love me the smokers


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Feel free to post up some pics Inno. Thread is for smoker lovers !!  The t500 on its first start-up after many years  ;D ;D
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #79 on: May 27, 2017, 09:42:25 am »
HA!   I got me a new Suzi toy...1966 Suzi X6 Hustler!  Pics later, I'm off to go boating...
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2017, 12:59:08 pm »
HA!   I got me a new Suzi toy...1966 Suzi X6 Hustler!  Pics later, I'm off to go boating...
Please post up a pic when you can Steve and I saw in another post that your the proud owner of a neat little Kaw 250 triple. That will be a cool little scoot also.

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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2017, 08:25:15 pm »
Here's a nice one in Oz for only $3k USD, but I'm guessing Steve got his for a little bit cheaper? I love the gauge! ;D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Suzuki-X6-Hustler-28-000-miles/222522674289



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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2017, 06:30:16 pm »
HA!   I got me a new Suzi toy...1966 Suzi X6 Hustler!  Pics later, I'm off to go boating...
Please post up a pic when you can Steve and I saw in another post that your the proud owner of a neat little Kaw 250 triple. That will be a cool little scoot also.

Yes, I recently bought two little smokers. The baby Triple is a 350cc though, an S2 [S1 ia a 250]. That one will be sitting awhile waiting it's turn, needs total resto after sitting since '88.

The new Suzi toy is a '66 X6 Hustler, a nostalgic buy as it was my first "real bike" when I was 14 [had a Puch moped before that]

Had both the smokers shipped from the east coast, the Suzi is a runner with title, paid only $1350.  Here was when I got it...




And the first ride down to the local campground, was spotting sites on Lake Travis, my sister is coming to visit this weekend in her RV....




No pic but it has the same gauges as Terry posted above but has 17K miles.
Runs but def needs a tune up and tires.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #83 on: May 30, 2017, 07:54:04 pm »
That was a very good model Stev-o,I love those speedo/tach. units !  8)
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #84 on: May 30, 2017, 08:21:28 pm »
That is a sweet little bike Steve, well done! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #85 on: May 30, 2017, 10:19:21 pm »
The X6 Hustler earned the reputation of being the first production motorcycle of less than 500cc that could do 100 MPH. ;D
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #86 on: May 30, 2017, 11:32:18 pm »
1965 and  1966 Ducati Mach 1, and Mark Iii. 250 4 strokes were rated at 103 and 105 mph.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2017, 01:48:08 am »
Well of course you're both wrong, the BSA Gold Star (1956-63) was 499cc's, and had a top speed of 110 MPH. Into the Dummkopf corner with both of you! ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2017, 03:18:18 am »
Its twice the size of a Duc or a Hustler..
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2017, 03:32:37 am »
But it's still the first production bike under 500cc's to do the ton Frank, so get back in the corner! ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #90 on: May 31, 2017, 04:07:11 am »
 Very well done Steve, that model is a classic and a real deal early one. Think they came out in 1965 as the T20. Looks like a very nice original survivor. I wish just once I could buy a project that actually runs before I get it  :D
  I think I need to get one of those TDC piston gauges someday maybe that screw in the spark plug holes to really dial these two strokes in while doing a tune up.
  Did you see that on Craigslist or E-bay or get it from word of mouth ?  I like that your collection is growing and including nice bikes from all of the big 4 JAP manufactures. Variety is the spice of life !!
 Nice article/history with a 1967 example  http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-japanese-motorcycles/suzuki-x6-hustler
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #91 on: May 31, 2017, 05:25:16 am »
Eric, there are plans online to build your own tdc indicator from an old spark plug and an inexpensive dial indicator.  I bought all the parts to do it years ago before I had title problems with my RD, then never got around to putting it together.   Would be fun to whip it up together sometime.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #92 on: May 31, 2017, 06:12:12 am »
Eric, there are plans online to build your own tdc indicator from an old spark plug and an inexpensive dial indicator.  I bought all the parts to do it years ago before I had title problems with my RD, then never got around to putting it together.   Would be fun to whip it up together sometime.
I'm game Sean unless a tool already built is already irresistibly cheap. Another thing to research sometime on E-bay.

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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #93 on: May 31, 2017, 07:00:28 am »
Very well done Steve, that model is a classic and a real deal early one. Think they came out in 1965 as the T20. Looks like a very nice original survivor. I wish just once I could buy a project that actually runs before I get it  :D
  I think I need to get one of those TDC piston gauges someday maybe that screw in the spark plug holes to really dial these two strokes in while doing a tune up.
  Did you see that on Craigslist or E-bay or get it from word of mouth ?  I like that your collection is growing and including nice bikes from all of the big 4 JAP manufactures. Variety is the spice of life !!
 Nice article/history with a 1967 example  http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-japanese-motorcycles/suzuki-x6-hustler

Thanks Eric.   Smokers are becoming very collectable and I want as many as possible! [your T500 is on the list!]

Yes, the X6 is technically known as the T20, that is on the frame plate.  I found the Baby Triple through GUTS, he is on this forum as well at the Triples forum.  He found it through his gun forum but didnt want it [he already has a few], passed it on to me.
It was in Philly so I searched the Philly CL and found the X6 called and made an offer.
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Yes, the dial indicator is the best way to time a two stroke. Sean is correct, there are DYI's all over the 'net, I have gotten as far as prepping the spark plug, now I need to get a dial indicator.  Here is one method....

https://www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/930347-test-your-timing-for-only-15-dial-gauge-dial-indictor-ignition-timing/



Or one ready to go....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOP-DEAD-CENTER-TDC-PISTON-TIMING-SPARK-PLUG-TOOL-HONDA-YAMAHA-SUZUKI-KAWASAKI-/251437857182
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #94 on: May 31, 2017, 08:11:57 am »
The dial indicator is the most accurate and it's really worth it finding one that's already purposed/made for timing a motorcycle.I noticed online they have a cheap $69 kit marketed as 'PVL' which says it has a 14mm spark plug adapter.There is no comparison to getting a new set of quality oem points and setting them w/ a quality gauge;timing is everything.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #95 on: May 31, 2017, 09:13:46 am »
Steve and camna, how often do you find the factory marks to be inaccurate?
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #96 on: May 31, 2017, 09:24:04 am »
Steve and camna, how often do you find the factory marks to be inaccurate?

Sean, When i was 17 the head-mechanic trained me to use the dial indicator so I didn't ever look for TDC or timing marks.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #97 on: May 31, 2017, 09:55:02 am »
I invested in this piece of kit for setting the ignition timing.  It has adapters for 3 different plug sizes and a couple of different rods to extend the dial gauge plunger to suit etc.  When finding TDC and then your preferred BTDC timing point it does rely on a vertical plug hole (i.e. a centre plug head).  The std. T500 head has an offset plug and thus the dial gauge won't sit vertically so you need to know your geometry mathamatics  :)



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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #98 on: May 31, 2017, 10:39:02 am »
I invested in this piece of kit for setting the ignition timing.  It has adapters for 3 different plug sizes and a couple of different rods to extend the dial gauge plunger to suit etc.  When finding TDC and then your preferred BTDC timing point it does rely on a vertical plug hole (i.e. a centre plug head).  The std. T500 head has an offset plug and thus the dial gauge won't sit vertically so you need to know your geometry mathamatics  :)



Cheers  Geoff

That looks like a quality kit there Geoff,a very good thing for a 2-stroke guy to have.
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Re: New Toy- 1971 Suzuki T500
« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2017, 01:02:19 pm »
I invested in this piece of kit for setting the ignition timing.  It has adapters for 3 different plug sizes and a couple of different rods to extend the dial gauge plunger to suit etc.  When finding TDC and then your preferred BTDC timing point it does rely on a vertical plug hole (i.e. a centre plug head).  The std. T500 head has an offset plug and thus the dial gauge won't sit vertically so you need to know your geometry mathamatics  :)



Cheers  Geoff


Crap - figures the t500 would have to be a little different. If and when I get that far I may PM you Geoff for a quickie math lesson since it sounds like you 'have been there,done that".